Murder and Abortion

Originally posted by @apathist
A fertilized egg is not a human being.

It is human life, an individual.

Originally posted by @apathist
A fertilized egg is not a human being.

Says you?

Originally posted by @eladar
It is human life, an individual.

No it isn't, and I can prove it. Fertilized eggs can be frozen, and then thawed with no loss of viability.

Try that with a human.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Says you?

Is the potential for human life the only consideration? Shouldn't we prevent unwanted pregnancies? Do you know about tipping points? If we keep breeding indiscriminately, we are all going to die. I mean humans go extinct. And not because we evolve into something else, but because we all die due to overpopulation.

This is a real thing. I don't know your science education background, but I know you are a good person. Don't oppose stuff you don't understand, until you see something we need to hear.

Originally posted by @eladar
Abortion needs to be banned because it is the taking of another innocent human being's life for no other reason than inconvenience.

Sliced bread needs to be banned because it is the division of a piece of bread for no other reason than convenience.

Originally posted by @eladar
Abortion needs to be banned because it is the taking of another innocent human being's life for no other reason than inconvenience.

Yet another astounding example of your rather limited capacity for compassion and empathy, just like those (mostly Christian, btw) who claim that people are poor because they are lazy.

Originally posted by @apathist
No it isn't, and I can prove it. Fertilized eggs can be frozen, and then thawed with no loss of viability.

Try that with a human.

Try this!
If you stop and kill something it ends, if you leave it till the end you could end up with an
elderly man or woman. You can end a sperm, it will not become an old man or woman
if left along, the same thing is true with an egg. That is not true of fertilized egg, if that is
allowed to continue during its natural state a human man or woman will once fully
done will be there. Kill a 2 year old, you will never see a teenager, kill a 10 year the
same thing, kill an infant same thing, kill a child in its mothers womb you'll never hear that
baby laugh.

So what that fertilized eggs can be frozen, those eggs in their natural state if allowed to
complete the process will develop into embryo, fetus, infant, and so on. You kill off any
of them they never move on to the next stage of human life, you end the human life.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
[Try this!
If you stop and kill something it ends, if you leave it till the end you could end up with an...

I know that. Should we not give thought to our progeny.

A fertilized egg is not a child. This disturbs you, and I understand that. It disturbs me too. How dare the church prohibit contraception.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Sliced bread needs to be banned because it is the division of a piece of bread for no other reason than convenience.

Makes sense, you believe there is no difference between human life and a loaf of bread.

Originally posted by @apathist
Is the potential for human life the only consideration? Shouldn't we prevent unwanted pregnancies? Do you know about tipping points? If we keep breeding indiscriminately, we are all going to die. I mean humans go extinct. And not because we evolve into something else, but because we all die due to overpopulation.

This is a real thing. I don't know your ...[text shortened]... a good person. Don't oppose stuff you don't understand, until you see something we need to hear.

You are good with killing someone to make someone else's life easier?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You are good with killing someone to make someone else's life easier?

No. I'm good with helping third-world countries stop popping out kids they can't support.

https://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-12-weeks_1101.bc



Does the picture here look like a baby or fertilized egg?

Originally posted by @apathist
No. I'm good with helping third-world countries stop popping out kids they can't support.

So kill them? You want open season on them all or just when they are young or old?

Originally posted by @eladar
Makes sense, you believe there is no difference between human life and a loaf of bread.

I wasn't comparing "human life" and "bread." I was comparing a nonsensical reasoning to a nonsensical reasoning.

If an embryo deserves protection, then what does it matter (in cases where the mother's life is not in danger) why the abortion is sought?

Originally posted by @eladar
https://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-12-weeks_1101.bc
Does the picture here look like a baby or fertilized egg?

Baby. Here is a better pic for you:
https://asweetsouvenir.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/12-week-baby-model.jpg?w=640

The termination of unwanted pregnancies should happen early. Late-term abortions shouldn't happen except for medical emergencies.

http://brainblogger.com/2009/05/10/medical-controversy-when-does-life-begin/