Obedience vs Disobedience

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So your answer to my question, is rape objectively wrong, is no?

My answer is as I have written it. There is no need for you to paraphrase it in an effort to avoid addressing the specific and completely relevant content of what I have said in direct and candid response to what you are asking me to comment on.

Originally posted by @fmf
When I explained to you what I think morality is, where it comes from, what it is affected by, what its purpose is, and what happens when people do not agree about morality, you opted not to engage what I was saying. I gave a full account for my beliefs. You missed the opportunity to address them.

By 'opting to engage' you mean agree with you? I recall challenging your beliefs and you going into defense mode and using the 'we've discussed this before' defense mechanism very much like you are doing now.

Originally posted by @fmf
My answer is as I have written it. There is no need for you to paraphrase it in an effort to avoid addressing the specific and completely relevant content of what I have said in direct and candid response to what you are asking me to comment on.

So you cannot give me a direct yes or no answer. Figured as much.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
By 'opting to engage' you mean agree with you?

No of course not. What a juvenile way of looking at it. There were whole tracts of my contribution to those discussions on morality that you blanked out and you kept of posting as if you had not read them.

The longer and more detailed my explanations/testimony were, the more likely that their content had absolutely no bearing on what you subsequently posted. At times it was like a parody of a conversation. I was not the only poster to comment on it.

There is no onus on either of us to agree with each other. We are simply swapping personal opinions and explanations.

By "opting to engage" I mean: read, consider, and then let it have some impact on the conversation.

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If you believe in God, don't you believe that what God says is always true regardless of what anyone else may think? I.e His commands form objective truth? So if God were to say that something is evil then it would remain evil regardless of what anyone else might think or say?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So you cannot give me a direct yes or no answer. Figured as much.

Not only did I give you a full and detailed answer, I also explained my thinking.

Originally posted by @fmf
No of course not. What a juvenile way of looking at it. There were whole tracts of my contribution to those discussions on morality that you blanked out and you kept of posting as if you had not read them.

The longer and more detailed my explanations/testimony were, the more likely that their content had absolutely no bearing on what you subsequently posted ...[text shortened]... "opting to engage" I mean: read, consider, and then let it have some impact on the conversation.

How in your opinion should I have posted if I were to post 'as if I had read them'? 🙄

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I recall challenging your beliefs and you going into defense mode and using the 'we've discussed this before' defense mechanism very much like you are doing now.

I only started pointing out that we had already discussed things before after several weeks of you seemingly not engaging - or even acknowledging - my side of the conversation. Like now, you are asking me about rape again. I explained, fully and honestly, over dozens of thread pages my take on the morality of rape. You mostly ignored what I was saying. So, if you ask me about it again, and pretend that we have not discussed it, I reserve the right to point it out.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
How in your opinion should I have posted if I were to post 'as if I had read them'? 🙄

By not blanking out what was said and then asking the same things over and over again when they'd already been addressed.

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Says the guy who hasn't answered a single one of my questions...

I am not saying he should be able to account for an objective moral law, I am merely pointing out that he can't. And that's why he won't give me a straight yes or no answer to my question.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I am not saying FMF should be able to account for an objective moral law, I am merely pointing out that he can't. And that's why he won't give me a straight yes or no answer to my question.

We discussed it over the course of two or three really lengthy threads. I refer you to those conversations.