Practical politics and practical spirituality

@fmf said
No, I never said that at all. I am on the 16th page of talking about Christianity on this thread alone. What I did say, however, was that I wasn't interested in talking to you specifically about my loss of faith.

Loss of faith is loss of Christianity is it not? That's according to your Christian judgments BTW.
So, how is it that you an atheist, can judge if a person has correct faith or not to be called a Christian?

@kingdavid403 said
I have all the details in my Christian history books from Christian university next to me.

One wonders how you could have written any assignments at a university without recognizing some of the basic logical fallacies.

@kingdavid403 said
Loss of faith is loss of Christianity is it not?

I don't subscribe to the core beliefs of Christianity ~ I "lost" them ~ so I am not a Christian.

@kingdavid403 said
So, how is it that you an atheist, can judge if a person has correct faith or not to be called a Christian?

I am not judging anyone's beliefs. It's a matter of defending the meaning of words. Earlier on this thread, when I said this, you told me I am "preaching to the choir".

@fmf said
One wonders how you could have written any assignments at a university without recognizing some of the basic logical fallacies.

lol, keep wondering liar boy. "fallacies" lol. You're the fallacy.

@kingdavid403 said
lol, keep wondering liar boy. "fallacies" lol. You're the fallacy.

The "ad hominem" you are using ~ instead of dealing with the argument ~ is one of the basic logical fallacies.

@fmf said
I am not judging anyone's beliefs. It's a matter of defending the meaning of words. Earlier on this thread, when I said this, you told me I am "preaching to the choir".

You're defending the meaning of words as an atheist, using Bible teachings on Jesus. Yeah okay. lol.. Did you take your meds yet?

@kingdavid403 said
You're defending the meaning of words as an atheist, using Bible teachings on Jesus. Yeah okay. lol..

I'm defending the meaning of the word "Christian". There is nothing to be gained from misusing or diluting it. You agreed with me 4-5 pages ago.

There's nothing wrong with following the teachings attributed to Jesus - or some of them, and taking that inspiration from the Bible - but it doesn't mean the label "Christian" fits.

@kingdavid403 said
You're defending the meaning of words as an atheist, using Bible teachings on Jesus.

as an atheist

This is irrelevant.

@kingdavid403 said
Did you take your meds yet?

This kind of silly banter is not necessary.

@fmf said
I'm defending the meaning of the word "Christian". There is nothing to be gained from misusing or diluting it. You agreed with me 4-5 pages ago.

There's nothing wrong with following the teachings attributed to Jesus - or some of them, and taking that inspiration from the Bible - but it doesn't mean the label "Christian" fits.

One can only defend the meaning of the word "Christian", with your Christian perspective on what the word Christian means, only if they are a believing Christian themselves. It is you whom is confused. You have your Christianity mixing with your atheism's in your head,

@fmf said
as an atheist

This is irrelevant.

not when you're using the teachings of the Bible and Jesus, to defend the meaning of your words.

@kingdavid403 said
One can only defend the meaning of the word "Christian", with your Christian perspective on what the word Christian means, only if they are a believing Christian themselves.

Intellectually speaking, I don't think this is true. I think it would be mistaken of anyone, regardless of their faith or lack of faith, to categorise someone who believes that the life, death and resurrection of Christ DID NOT HAPPEN as a "Christian".

Similarly, I think a Jew or Christian - or agnostic atheist like me - can say, categorically, without error - that a person claiming to be a Muslim who, nevertheless, believes that Jesus was God incarnate/ the Son of God, is not a Muslim.

@kingdavid403 said
not when you're using the teachings of the Bible and Jesus, to defend the meaning of your words.

It's still irrelevant and an ad hominem fallacy.

@kingdavid403 said
You have your Christianity mixing with your atheism's in your head,

This is not true.