Sickening Bible Stories

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If men don't create life, and they don't preserve life, then doesn't it follow that men don't take life away? People can cut other people up, hit them, drop them from airplanes...but it's really God doing the killing by this logic.

No, as I have been saying life as we see it here and now is within a
body that has processes keeping it alive. There are various and sundry
systems that are working together to keep our physical bodies going.
Death here is the stopping of those processes and systems, that has
nothing to do with our soul or spirit. What comes after this life,
what happens to our souls and spirits man has no power over, out
side of the choice that man has on answering God's call to Himself
through Jesus Christ. What is within the body that lives on forever
and goes back to God, man can do nothing with as far as killing or
creating goes.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You should go play golf with Nemesio.
I did say that God kills and makes alive, people do not do that.
It is like a crap shoot with sex and starting the process of life
within a woman, it isn't an act of human will outside of having
sex, beyond that nothing is up to man. Man does not through
an act of will start life, man basically only hopes it happe ...[text shortened]... f a record for man
being able to save lives, when they all die at one time or another.
Kelly

But sex is an act of will. Therefore, man does start life through an act of will.

It is called saving a life when we perform an operation to stop someone from dying sooner than their normal life expectancy. If we had to make someone immortal before we could claim to save their life, then nobody would ever use this terminology!

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
But sex is an act of will. Therefore, man does start life through an act of will.

It is called [b]saving a life when we perform an operation to stop someone from dying sooner than their normal life expectancy. If we had to make someone immortal before we could claim to save their life, then nobody would ever use this terminology![/b]

You are correct, sex is the act of will beyond that man has little to
no control over what happens next when it comes to creating a new
life. As far as your saving life is concern, we were talking about
healing, and that is a body processes not an act of will of man. Man
again may play with the processes, but our actions may or may not
work, because we are not in control. I agree that prolonging life is
called saving it, but it will die. Outside of God saving a life our times
are limited here in this life time inspite of our best efforts or will.
Kelly

IM A CHRISTIAN

Originally posted by TheMasaiTribe
IM A CHRISTIAN

No need to shout about it...

Originally posted by Starrman
No need to shout about it...

On the contrary, he should shout it from the mountaintops.

Amen, brother.

Originally posted by Darfius
On the contrary, he should shout it from the mountaintops.

Amen, brother.

Do you have any sense of humour at all?

Originally posted by Starrman
Do you have any sense of humour at all?

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Originally posted by Darfius
Why did the chicken cross the road?

To get away from a band of over-zealous thread hijackers?

Originally posted by Starrman
To get away from a band of over-zealous thread hijackers?

Have you heard this one before?

Originally posted by Darfius
Have you heard this one before?

Sadly, more than you can imagine.

Have we had this beauty yet?

2 Kings 15:16 Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.

Apparently there is more mention of words relating to killing in the Bible than words relating to love...I find that fascinating. Darfius, is this true?

Here's one I remember from my christian days, took me a while to find it.

The reference is: 2 Samuel 6:6-7

Basically, it seems that the Ark of the Covenant was being returned to Jerusalem from the home of Abinadab on an ox-drawn cart which Abinadab's sons, Ahio and Uzzah, were responsible for guiding. When the party arrived at the threshing floor of Nacon, the oxen momentarily stumbled and Uzzah instinctively reached out to steady the cart for the purpose of protecting the sacred Ark. As his hand approaches the Ark, God, in a act of senseless cruelty, struck him dead.

Also, in the process of my searching I found this link, which pretty much does the job of this thread for us:

http://home.inu.net/skeptic/bloody.html

Originally posted by TheMasaiTribe
IM A CHRISTIAN

Hi there,

Please be carefull TheMasaiTribe. I don't know your age but I have the impression you're still very young.
I am a Christian too from The Netherlands in Europe, but there are people on this site who do not like Christians, in particular Americans and British who call themselves "liberals" or "Freethinkers" can be pretty agressive and mean. That's why I ask you to be carefull. You do not always get positive reactions if you tell them you are a Christian. That is sad, but these are the facts.

However, I'm proud that you are a Christian. May God bless you.

Originally posted by ivanhoe
I am a Christian too from The Netherlands in Europe, but there are people on this site who do not like Christians, in particular Americans and British who call themselves "liberals" or "Freethinkers" can be pretty agressive and mean. That's why I ask you to be carefull. You do not always get positive reactions if you tell them you are a Christian. That is sad, but these are the facts.

I get a bit tired of the stereotype that the Netherlands and non-British Europe in general are somehow more tolerant or accepting than the US and Britain. Even if it is really true, the europeans posting on websites sure aren't showing it. They don't seem the least bit more tolerant. In particular, Ivanhoe, you sound as snippety, rude, and aggressive as anyone else here.