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Originally posted by KellyJay"but we will with Jesus Christ overcome those things no matter how bad and evil they are"
This life is filled with good and bad things that occur to us, both can suck the
life out of us. If she struggled that is part of life none of us are ever told that
those types of things cannot happen to us, we are not "protected from the bad
or evil" in this world to the point of avoiding all of it, but we will with Jesus
Christ overcome those things no matter how bad and evil they are.
Kelly
is that your way of saying, you think if you loose faith then you never really had it?
Originally posted by stellspalfieI'm not sure what you mean when you say lose faith, I'm saying that when
"but we will with Jesus Christ overcome those things no matter how bad and evil they are"
is that your way of saying, you think if you loose faith then you never really had it?
you enter into a relationship with God through Jesus Christ (in faith) that
relationship has God with you. If you just want to say that you believe in
God (in faith) but do not have a relationship with God in Christ that isn't
the same thing. The thing about Christianity isn't that it is just another belief
system, it is one where God calls man into a relationship with Him, not one
where we try to prove to God we are wrothy.
Kelly
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Originally posted by KellyJayi think you are reading more in to the question than is there. im simply asking if you think a person can know jesus or enter a relationship with jesus or however you want to word it and then at a later date decide they do not believe in jesus.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say lose faith, I'm saying that when
you enter into a relationship with God through Jesus Christ (in faith) that
relationship has God with you. If you just want to say that you believe in
God (in faith) but do not have a relationship with God in Christ that isn't
the same thing. The thing about Christianity isn't that ...[text shortened]... an into a relationship with Him, not one
where we try to prove to God we are wrothy.
Kelly
you seem to be saying that if any person decides they no longer believe in god/jesus , that they never really knew jesus/god or had a relationship with him or however you prefer to word it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMmm. There was of course that long thread on which galveston75 claimed that your organisation's literature was inspired by God in the same way as the Bible was inspired. So when you say "watchtower magazine, in fact, its not considered inspired at all" you seem to be saying something different from galveston75 on this.
we dont place faith on the watchtower magazine, in fact, its not considered inspired at
all, although it is rather excellent to be honest, you crazeeeee.
Originally posted by KellyJayYou're brains are okay, the Jewish Zombie wants nothing to do with them. He just wants to fill you with his spirit instead?! 😲
Me too, and who would want to!
I hear the zombies are coming for brains, don't worry your safe. 🙂
My son got a T-shirt that said that, made him buy me one.
Kelly
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Originally posted by FMFno i don't think he did, perhaps you misunderstood him, its never been considered inspired like the Bible, yes its spiritual food, yes it has its basis in Gods Word the Bible, but it itself is not considered inspired.
Mmm. There was of course that long thread on which galveston75 claimed that your organisation's literature was inspired by God in the same way as the Bible was inspired. So when you say "watchtower magazine, in fact, its not considered inspired at all" you seem to be saying something different from galveston75 on this.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiegalveston75 explicitly said your organisation's literature is God inspired like the Bible is, and that God was using JW writers to teach directly just as He had used people to write the gospels, and he stuck with this assertion under questioning, at least for several pages of the thread. I remember how you said that you would tell galveston75 was wrong if it turned out that he had said such a thing, and when the verbatim quotes were pointed out to you, you just went ad hominem on me, wouldn't tell galveston75 he had been wrong, and he went quiet and denied that he had said your organisation's literature is God inspired like the Bible is, etc. etc. etc. It was quite an interesting thread. You became quite nasty. It was kind of interesting. Surely you remember?
no i don't think he did, perhaps you misunderstood him, its never been considered inspired like the Bible, yes its spiritual food, yes it has its basis in Gods Word the Bible, but it itself is not considered inspired.
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Originally posted by FMFno i cannot say that i do, sorry. I remember vaguely you being asked to produce a
galveston75 explicitly said your organisation's literature is God inspired like the Bible is, and that God was using JW writers to teach directly just as He had used people to write the gospels, and he stuck with this assertion under questioning, at least for several pages of the thread. I remember how you said that you would tell him galveston75 was wrong if it n interesting thread. You became quite nasty. It was kind of interesting. Surely you remember?
quotation which you couldn't do, but that happens so often.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieGood job i found it then - 🙂
no i cannot say that i do, sorry. I remember vaguely you being asked to produce a
quotation which you couldn't do, but that happens so often.
FMF - Are you saying that the employees of the JW organisation who write The Watchtower and Awake! are divinely inspired in the same way you believe the bible's writers were?
galveston75 - Yes we do. What they are used for is not to write another Bible but God inspired bible aids. God has always used humans in one form or another to bring us God's thoughts and guidelines.
All this can be found here Thread 146196 page 6. 🙂
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Originally posted by Proper Knob[/b]claiming that the writers are also recipients of Holy Spirt is not claiming that the literature itself is inspired, perhaps GMan was under the impression that it was, i am telling you that it is not considered inspired as is the Bible.
Good job i found it then - 🙂FMF - Are you saying that the employees of the JW organisation who write The Watchtower and Awake! are divinely inspired in the same way you believe the bible's writers were?galveston75 - [b]Yes we do. What they are used for is not to write another Bible but God inspired bible aids. God has always used humans in one form or another to bring us God's thoughts and guidelines.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh well, I am sure there are a range of different viewpoints on Awake and Watchtower among Jehovah's Witnesses, ranging from your 'they are not God inspired at all' type viewpoint, to galveston75's 'they are God teaching directly through JW writers, inspired by God like the gospels were inspired' type viewpoint. The JWs I have known personally never made the claims that galveston75 made. Their viewpoint was more like yours.
no i cannot say that i do, sorry.