The Book of Amos

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I agree. I should have phrased it more carefully. It is much easier for White people in the United States, where they are a majority in the population, and a super-majority in the structures of power, to pretend that race is not an issue.

You really are stuck on that cord! Depending on what and where you
are attempting to do and go color can also help you! It is a mix bag,
and blanket statements like yours suggesting white people are above
it all is very anti-white as well as anti-black with respect to color.
Race can help and it can hurt, so can gender, a black female in the
tech world if she is has talent is a rare thing and highly desired! What
you are doing is claiming that white people are all against anyone not
of color and have with their race automatically have it against people
with more color than them, that they cannot help it or stop it, to do
so is to just PRETEND it isn’t there.

That is a circular racist belief system, and it hinders any hope of
getting past the color of each other if you are so dead set on
automatically suggesting whites are holding others back, by virtue of
their wonderful lack of color even if they don't think that way. Such
thinking also perpetuates the notion where some people believe as
soon as someone with color has anything NOT go their way they
scream race when race may have absolutely nothing to do with their
set back at all. The whole notion perpetuates racism, blame the X,
and take away personal responsibility from Y not getting their own
way and you can insert any color or lack there of into either X, or
the Y.
Kelly

Originally posted by Wulebgr
Based on this response, I'm fairly certain that you don't understand the term. Here's an effort towards explaining the term from one of the seminal essays on the topic, "Unpacking the Invisble Knapsack" by Peggy McIntosh

http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf


As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and
a ...[text shortened]... as the only non-African American at the table, considered that I should remain silent.

You want to bash the whole world because people seek out those they
have things in common with? I spend almost all of my lunch breaks
at a table where all the people I sit with are from India, reason being
they are all chess players and quite good at it. On days I don't sit with
them it is with the people I work with, who are either from China,
Philippians, Vietnam, America, and Mexico or whose families have
come from there, reason being they are my co-workers. On days I
attend a weekly Bible study I was the lone white person in the room
until a little while back, that has since changed. None of those things
have anything to do with color, it has to do with commonality among
people, which was why I told you I would be predisposed to side
with Rev. Wright, because I have more in common with the Rev than
I do Fox News.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
What you are doing is claiming that white people are all against anyone not of color and have with their race automatically have it against people with more color than them, that they cannot help it or stop it, to do so is to just PRETEND it isn’t there.

I never said anything remotely close to that. Go back and reread my posts.


I repeat: I AM WHITE.

I am not judging individual behaviors and attitudes. I am noting the simple observation, that White people control most of the bastions of power--economic, political, social, intellectual--in the United States. Everything I have said here concerns institutions of power, the very institutions that you and I can more easily navigate than most Blacks.

Obama almost seems the exception that proves the rule. He is President, but when he attempts to enact a few modest programs that are the norm in the Western world he is compared to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

Originally posted by whodey
You forgot the Black Liberation Movement which gave birth to Reverend Wright. You know, Obama's spiritual advisor.

Originally posted by whodey
Do you two even know what the Black libertarian movement was all about? Their origins are socialist in nature no matter if Reverend Wright got a bum rap.

Which?

Liberation or Libertarian? If you cannot keep these two straight, why should we concern ourselves with your claim that its roots are socialism?

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I never said anything remotely close to that. Go back and reread my posts.


I repeat: I AM WHITE.

I am not judging individual behaviors and attitudes. I am noting the simple observation, that White people control most of the bastions of power--economic, political, social, intellectual--in the United States. Everything I have said here concerns institu ...[text shortened]... rograms that are the norm in the Western world he is compared to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

I believe I owe you apologies. I think I mixed your posts with
anothers too, and mixing them up led to something completely
different than what you were saying, sorry my bad. My tone to you
as completely uncalled for.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe I owe you apologies. I think I mixed your posts with
anothers too, and mixing them up led to something completely
different than what you were saying, sorry my bad. My tone to you
as completely uncalled for.
Kelly

You are a reasonable man. I look forward to the next argument. I'm done with this one, as we've drifted to far from our Bible study on the prophet Amos.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
You are a reasonable man. I look forward to the next argument. I'm done with this one, as we've drifted to far from our Bible study on the prophet Amos.

Thank you for your kindness with me being such an a$$. 🙂
Kelly