The fool

Originally posted by David C
Truthfully, no. I pity you, because your belief stems from your fear.

Originally posted by RBHILL
That is becasue you are of the world.
And the world dislikes Christian.
And you hate use becasue we are saved and healed and you do not want to believe it.

Originally posted by no1marauder
What did you do: learn a new word in Bible school?? Explain your statement.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
God has different rules for different people at different times. There are different "administrations" throughout the bible. No it is not new, I learned about dispensationalism over 25 years ago. Your arrogance simply defines the title of this thread.😉

Originally posted by no1marauder
Now I remember; according to you, Jesus' words only applied when he was actually alive and then everything changed. Why did they bother to write them down then?

Dispensationalism is grounded in the biblical truth that there are only three distinct groups of human beings on earth today—Jew, Gentile and the Church of God, a.k.a “the Body of Christ” or “Christians” (1 Cor. 10:32)—and recognizes God’s various ways of dealing with each.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Dispensationalism is grounded in the biblical truth that there are only three distinct groups of human beings on earth today—Jew, Gentile and the Church of God, a.k.a “the Body of Christ” or “Christians” (1 Cor. 10:32)—and recognizes God’s various ways of dealing with each.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Dispensationalism is grounded in the biblical truth that there are only three distinct groups of human beings on earth today—Jew, Gentile and the Church of God, a.k.a “the Body of Christ” or “Christians” (1 Cor. 10:32)—and recognizes God’s various ways of dealing with each.

Originally posted by eagles54
Interesting.

And how does God deal with each?

Dispensationalism is often referred to as a “systematic theology,” but that does not necessarily make it a theory of men as distinct from the truth of God. Christians are called upon to be “workmen” of the Word of God (2 Tim. 2:15), so we cannot expect God to be doing all the work of understanding the Bible for us. There are a variety of ways in which the Bible is not entirely self-interpreting, and must therefore be “correctly handled” or “rightly-divided” according to sound reasoning and the honest application of principles of literary interpretation. The principles are vital to uphold if the Bible is to be understood without contradictions.

If the Bible gives us 2 + 2, we are expected to be able to figure out that the sum is 4, even if it does not specifically say so. If it gives us 2 + ? = 4, we are supposed to figure out that 2 is the missing variable. There is a mathematical exactness to the Word of God that requires us to use our God-given faculties of reason and logic. Sometimes the Bible presents interpretational problems that are essentially algebraic in nature, meaning that we must reason from the known to the unknown to find the solution. Jesus held the disciples accountable for their failing to understand the necessity of his suffering, death and resurrection, even calling them “fools” when they did not draw logical conclusions from the evidence. In other words, they failed to put 2 and 2 together from the scriptural and physical evidence. Actually, they failed to distinguish between his suffering and his glory, and to realize that the only way to harmonize all the evidence was to posit two separate “comings” of Christ to the earth to Israel.

The fact that Dispensationalism as a systematic theology was only fully developed by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) is often cited as evidence to discredit it. This reasoning is based on the premise that if it were true, it would not have been so recently discovered and systematized, but would have been a part of the understanding of the Church since its inception. By that logic, however, we would also have to discredit other doctrines such as the priesthood of the believer and justification by faith, since they did not come to light until the mid-1500’s. The question put properly is: What was taught and practiced by the apostles and the first Century Church and recorded in the Bible?

Our position, which is finding an ever-widening circle of scholarly support, is that many great truths in the New Testament were obscured and lost during the intervening decades between the death of the apostles and the rise of the Roman Catholic Church early in the fourth century. The history of the Christian Church since then has pivoted around many heroic saints who wrested these truths from the jaws of religious tradition, often at the cost of their own lives.

The teaching of the Roman Catholic Church is based upon the amillennialist theology of St. Augustine, who held that the Church has adopted the destiny of Israel and is building Christ’s Kingdom on earth through political, economic and worldly influence. As a direct result, the doctrine of Christ’s imminent appearing has been utterly neglected by Roman Catholic tradition.

One of the logical effects of dispensational thinking was the recovery of the idea of Christ’s imminent appearing, something that was clearly believed and practiced in the first-century Church (1 Cor. 1:7; Phil. 3:20 and 21; 1 Thess. 1:9 and 10, 4:16 and 17, 5:5-9; Titus 2:13; James 5:8 and 9; Rev. 3:10, 22:17-21). One of the earmarks of non-dispensational thinking is that of placing the Christian Church on a timetable of events that must occur before Christ can gather the Church. This results in believers looking for “signs” of Christ’s appearing, rather than the appearing itself.

Our experience has been that many believers who reject a dispensational view of Scripture are soon teaching a post- (or perhaps mid-) tribulational “Rapture” (defined from 1 Thess. 4:13ff as the gathering together of all Christians who ever lived to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the air), and are looking for all the signs mentioned in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 as if these things are written to the Church. They also frequently teach “lordship salvation,” which means the believer is saved only if he “endures to the end,” because this concept is integral to the post-tribulational position. We see a clear distinction between the requirements for salvation in the Old Testament as contrasted to the Church Epistles. Yes, faith was required in each administration, but that is not the salient question. The more important question is, “Faith in what?” Throughout the Old Testament it is clear that the Jews needed faith in God, which was expressed by keeping the Law and staying faithful to the end. However, the Apostle Paul writes that “now, a righteousness from God apart from Law has been made known” (Rom. 3:21). We are concerned about the erroneous tendency among Christians to read Scripture as if it made no distinctions from administration to administration, and that punctuates for us the importance of dispensational thinking.

from; http://www.truthortradition.com/

Originally posted by checkbaiter
???? I don't recall that. It does not make sense. Jesus words always apply. But His knowledge was limited. That is, He did not know God's plan to minute detail.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
???? I don't recall that. It does not make sense. Jesus words always apply. But His knowledge was limited. That is, He did not know God's plan to minute detail.

Originally posted by Rajk999
How can someone have 'limited knowledge' but yet his words 'always applies' ? What have you been inhaling ?

Does that make sense to anyone else ?

Jesus did not know the time or the hour when He would return, only the Father, among other things He did not know.