Originally posted by Pudgenik
To believe in this concept, is ridiculous. It would be like saying, "today" I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. And tomorrow I can do whatever I want, because I am "saved". Doing whatever I want, to commit all manner of sin, but look I am a child of God.
Has know one ever read, where Jesus is talking about those at judgement. You faithful co ...[text shortened]... e, we healed people in your name." Then the Lord said to them, "Away from me, I never knew you".
As ridiculous as it may seem to you, there is nothing you can do to achieve salvation as it is a gift of god that no one may boast. Your inability (or mine) to comprehend this does nothing to nullify god's grace. The alternative view is that we get our salvation for DOING something, lose it for DOING something and then errr...what, we get it again for DOING something.
People confuse the freedom of salvation with the lack of discipleship and absence of god's discipline. Consider David, the man after god's heart, also of the root of Jesse and typification of Jesus Christ and yet he committed murder so he could commit adultery with the victim's wife. God dealt with him but never cut him off, never did he say "today you have become an orphan." ?
Look at Moses, led by god to abandon his position of wealth and power, chosen to be the leader of the people of Israel and the lawgiver and yet while god was bringing him out he committed murder. Did you see god say to him:
"err sorry Moses but you've badly screwed up their old chap so unfortunately the plan is off and I'm afraid you're going to prison and probably death - it was fun while it lasted but you didn't quite make the cut".
To tell someone that god loves them and his completed work of salvation can be accessed through the faith (he has given you) and tell them "ah actually you had a cigarette and a beer and you looked at that woman in a lustful way, so I'm sorry but you're out of the family, and back into hell. Yeah, tough love but gods like that - he hates sinners."