-Removed-Which was 3 pages after I asked for it. Am I not speaking English? I really don't get what I am saying wrong here.
I'd rather bang heads with the JWs than exchange dry worthless pedantries with you twhitehead. You bring nothing of value in these exchanges except stirring a mild curiosity in me of your background with Christianity.
Not a problem. Although I really can't think what you get out of those JWs, they stick to the party line so well you will know it by heart after a thread or two.
What do you bring of value? Value to whom?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhat do you bring of value? Value to whom?
Which was 3 pages after I asked for it. Am I not speaking English? I really don't get what I am saying wrong here.
[b]I'd rather bang heads with the JWs than exchange dry worthless pedantries with you twhitehead. You bring nothing of value in these exchanges except stirring a mild curiosity in me of your background with Christianity.
Not a problem ...[text shortened]... ell you will know it by heart after a thread or two.
What do you bring of value? Value to whom?[/b]
An excellent question!
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhat do we have of value? And value to whom?
Which was 3 pages after I asked for it. Am I not speaking English? I really don't get what I am saying wrong here.
[b]I'd rather bang heads with the JWs than exchange dry worthless pedantries with you twhitehead. You bring nothing of value in these exchanges except stirring a mild curiosity in me of your background with Christianity.
Not a problem ...[text shortened]... ell you will know it by heart after a thread or two.
What do you bring of value? Value to whom?[/b]
What we have of value is our Love, and our Love to God.
Christains, J.W. and everyone else on earth. The Father's Children. All of us! The Father wants us to Love Him. "Jesus state, love God..., love God..., love God... : The Father loves! He doesn't want you who can quote the scripture till hell freezes over. He doesn't want all you who say with your mouths, I know Jesus - He is my savior. The Father wants your hearts.
Scripture states, "a jew is not one who is physically a jew. A true jew is one who's HEART is Circumsized."
Originally posted by RJHindsBecome unsaved. Yes, definitely! By your unrepented sins. What does sin do between you and God? If you live in sin then God is not the center of your life. But if you sin, then repent. God forgives!
That was not the original idea of the saying. However, you are right, that some people interpret it as you did. If Jesus saves a person, do you really think that person could be unsaved?
The Instructor
If sin was not an issue, why then does Jesus tell us so many parables on that subject?
Originally posted by RBHILLYou have forgotten our Free Will. Being saved is like opening a door, We still have to walk though it. And you cannot walk though it by sitting on a couch saying, i am saved. That would be like the man who put his 'talents' in the ground. The 'talents' need to bare fruit.
No because Jesus does the saving, we don't. And someone who is saved isn't going to go out and deliberately said. It would be because they are being oppressed and dwelling on sinful thoughts from the enemies of God. If you could lose your salvation why get saved?
Originally posted by SwissGambitJudas. He was saved.
Not this debate again. Expect 300 more posts of distinction-without-a-difference. Why? Because the OSAS crowd will always say 'a Christian who acts too evilly was never really saved in the first place', rendering the whole discussion moot.
It is written, 'Jesus sent them out two by two'. When Jesus did this, He sent them to heal, cast out demons, anything that needed to be done.
Jesus Himself stated, 'a house set against itself can not stand'.
These two statements will prove that Judas was indeed saved. But he threw that salvation away and betrayed Jesus.