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Originally posted by Proper KnobI dont think you are aware of what has really transpired,
I don't deny that there are groups who's aim is to stop the discrimination of LGBT people.
The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights
In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector.
A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower it's guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization.
First, we seek to replace the mainstream's self-righteous pride about its homophobia with shame and guilt. Second, we intend to make the antigays look so nasty that average Americans will want to dissociate themselves from such types.
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
What has actually transpired is the deliberate use of insidious propaganda to change perceptions and distort reality and to slanderously misrepresent opponents of a morality as is evidenced by the regurgitations of that propaganda via the duped on this very forum; the unfortunate victims of propaganda and a jingoistic campaign! bring on the clowns! I love the clowns!
Are you denying the fact? desensitization of conscience, manipulation of the media, distortion of perception, hate campaigns against opponents, attempts to motivate by shame and guilt, playing the victim card, ouch!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieInsidious propaganda? LOL!!!
I dont think you are aware of what has really transpired,
The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights
In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector.
A media ca ...[text shortened]... d a jingoistic campaign! bring on the clowns! I love the clowns!
Are you denying the fact?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiedo you think the suffragettes were social engineers??? did they manipulate simple minded fools into accepting their views??? what about martin luther king was he a social engineer??
are you denying that a systematic and prolonged attempt to engineer public opinion has taken place?
why is it wrong for homosexuals to want equality but okay for others?? would it be that you think they are sinners, so you will look for any pathetic argument to support your religious views.
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Originally posted by stellspalfiethe suffragettes were up front, they did not desensitize peoples consciences in fact they did quite the opposite, did they manipulate the media, defame others as haters, they were prepared to walk the walk and i resent your you attempts to portray gay demands in the same light. Gays have turned a moral wrong into a civil right! and you have bought it hook line and sinker!
do you think the suffragettes were social engineers??? did they manipulate simple minded fools into accepting their views??? what about martin luther king was he a social engineer??
why is it wrong for homosexuals to want equality but okay for others?? would it be that you think they are sinners, so you will look for any pathetic argument to support your religious views.
gays can enter a civil union to protect their rights, they have every equality like anyone else, they do not qualify for marriage the same as bigamists, polygamists or anyone else , it really is that simple.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's what any action group would do to better inform the public regarding
are you denying that a systematic and prolonged attempt to engineer public opinion has taken place?
a minority. Its what political parties do! The Greens do it, the far Right do
it, in the US the NRA do it. I'm sure JWs do it! Every group that
wants a better image does it.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??????????????
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Originally posted by wolfgang59really, they desensitize people, defame their opponents, assign to them mysterious mental illnesses, play the victims card, refuse to find any middle ground, and motive through guilt and shame,
That's what any action group would do to better inform the public regarding
a minority. Its what political parties do! The Greens do it, the far Right do
it, in the US the NRA do it. I'm sure JWs do it! [b]Every group that
wants a better image does it.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??????????????[/b]
oh i don't think so
and just to prove the point there is a referendum coming up in Scotland for independence let me see you produce any evidence of the above in the campaign by lets say the Scottish national party
Originally posted by robbie carrobiegays can enter a civil union to protect their rights, they have every equality like anyone else, they do not qualify for marriage the same as bigamists, polygamists or anyone else , it really is that simple.
the suffragettes were up front, they did not desensitize peoples consciences in fact they did quite the opposite, did they manipulate the media, defame others as haters, they were prepared to walk the walk and i resent your you attempts to portray gay demands in the same light. Gays have turned a moral wrong into a civil right! and you have bought it ...[text shortened]... alify for marriage the same as bigamists, polygamists or anyone else , it really is that simple.
Haters gonna hate.
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Originally posted by Proper Knob'I thought you were one of the most liberal posters on the site.'
[b]gays can enter a civil union to protect their rights, they have every equality like anyone else, they do not qualify for marriage the same as bigamists, polygamists or anyone else , it really is that simple.
Haters gonna hate.[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are naïve if you don't think every party will be using every trick it can.
...and just to prove the point there is a referendum coming up in Scotland for independence let me see you produce any evidence of the above in the campaign by lets say the Scottish national party
Originally posted by SuzianneSuzianne, i am not into the lifestyle. But these are my observations.
Given the ostracism, blaming, brainwashing, cruelty, banishment and out and out abuse, who in their right mind would "choose" to be gay?
Answer me that, robbie. Homosexuality is NOT a "carefree" lifestyle as you haters would try to represent it.
I've known two types of gays. (those attracted to the same gender). The first is a person who is brash, only interested in his own gain. He would use a person for his pleasures, then move on to the next person.
The other is someone who loves her partner. Has no interest in being with anyone else. And the partner is the same with her.
Sounds a lot like "normal people".
Anyone who abuses their spouse/partner; basically i'ld like to shoot them.
But if love abounds in the relationship, even in the homosexual relationship.
The only judgement i make is, I'm glad I'm married to my wife.