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Originally posted by stellspalfieI don't know I have not studied it in depth and will not commit a point of view until i have researched the matter, suffice to say that same sex unions by their very dynamics cannot provide a father in one instance nor a mother in the other, the unique blend that nature has decreed as paramount.
i will repeat. if they bring a unique blend. then both are bringing unique qualities associated with their gender. if they are not bringing qualities associated with their gender then a same sex couple can make the same blend. this is simple stuff robbie.
to make a blend at least two things must be added. lets call the thing the man brings 'x' and th ...[text shortened]... another woman brings 'x' or
man brings 'x' and another man brings 'x'
so what is it robbie?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiethats the most sensible, logical thing you have ever said. keep it up (although you should have just stated that at the beginning).
I don't know I have not studied it in depth and will not commit a point of view until i have researched the matter.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiethe unique blend that nature has decreed as paramount.
I don't know I have not studied it in depth and will not commit a point of view until i have researched the matter, suffice to say that same sex unions by their very dynamics cannot provide a father in one instance nor a mother in the other, the unique blend that nature has decreed as paramount.
can nature be improved upon?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiemen and woman are capable of having the same qualities. men and woman can be very different, sometimes very similar. men and men can be very different and sometimes very similar.
lets invert the argument, are you saying that men and women have exactly the same qualities?
the examples i gave to sonship were - if a masculine high testosterone, aggressive male has a baby with a high testosterone, aggressive female will they give a child the same unique qualities as a low testosterone, passive husband and wife or will they bring totally different qualities?
im sure there is a bell curve effect of commonalities among men. with those on the median representing standard men. but that would mean the men sitting outside of the 1st and 3rd interquartile range would not have the same skill set as those inside.
this would mean that you would have to add heterosexual men who sit outside the 1st and 3rd interquartile range to your list alongside homosexuals as people who do not bring the correct unique male qualities.
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Originally posted by stellspalfiemore genetic jive talk! for a start, men and women communicate entirely differently, are you denying it?
men and woman are capable of having the same qualities. men and woman can be very different, sometimes very similar. men and men can be very different and sometimes very similar.
the examples i gave to sonship were - if a masculine high testosterone, aggressive male has a baby with a high testosterone, aggressive female will they give a child the sa ...[text shortened]... to your list alongside homosexuals as people who do not bring the correct unique male qualities.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiei would not say that all men and all women communicate differently. i would also say that not all men communicate the same. some men are very quiet and struggle to express emotion, some men love a good chat about feelings and emotions. you are slipping into gender stereotyping. the differences in communication between the median man and women are not even clear enough to ascertain if they are genetic or learned behaviors. i lean towards learned behavior, as there definitely seems to be a shift in the men behave, its a lot more acceptable to be in touch with your 'feminine' side.
more genetic jive talk! for a start, men and women communicate entirely differently, are you denying it?
Originally posted by stellspalfieno this is jive talk, from a single search there are literally countless articles on the difference in communication,
i would not say that all men and all women communicate differently. i would also say that not all men communicate the same. some men are very quiet and struggle to express emotion, some men love a good chat about feelings and emotions. you are slipping into gender stereotyping. the differences in communication between the median man and women are not ev ...[text shortened]... e a shift in the men behave, its a lot more acceptable to be in touch with your 'feminine' side.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/emotional-fitness/201008/men-women-emotions-and-communication
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Originally posted by sonshipexcellent Jay! what indeed should be promoted!
What seems to be getting lost in this argument is which should be promoted ?
1.) Exception situations
2.) Typical time honored situations.
[b]Some smokers live longer than people who do not smoke.
Should then the givernment endorse and promote smoking because of this ?[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieread what ive written again. you are missing the point (probably on purpose).
no this is jive talk, from a single search there are literally countless articles on the difference in communication,
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/emotional-fitness/201008/men-women-emotions-and-communication
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