To be a Christian....

Originally posted by Rajk999
Christ, and he did answer.

Those who follow his commandments are his disciples.

Thanks. That's what I thought.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
they were organised for worship, priestly divisions, divisions of the temple. etc etc, you
cannot cry about it, its a scriptural fact.

Of course it is a fact. But one that has nothing to do with you being a member of a man-made cult organisation and my claim that being such a member has absolutly nothing to do with being a Christian; in fact probably the opposite applies.

Originally posted by divegeester
Of course it is a fact. But one that has nothing to do with you being a member of a man-made cult organisation and my claim that being such a member has absolutly nothing to do with being a Christian; in fact probably the opposite applies.

no your claim was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation, which is clearly
quite erroneous as it can be easily established that the first century Christians were
organised into congregations with the governing body of older men and apostles
rendering decisions on behalf of the brothers from Jerusalem, easily established. Here
are your words again,

not having the requirement to belong to, be a member of, or have a association with,
any temporal religious organisation, body or group

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no your claim was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation, which is clearly
quite erroneous as it can be easily established that the first century Christians were
organised into congregations with the governing body of older men and apostles
rendering decisions on behalf of the brothers from Jerusalem, easily established. Here
...[text shortened]... be a member of, or have a association with,
any temporal religious organisation, body or group

There is no "requirement", surely, robbie. Divegeester is right about that, I think. You claim there is a "requirement to belong to [...] an organisation"?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no your claim was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation

Where have I declared that a Christian should not belong to an organisation? The thread is about the requirements of being a Chrisitan; if you pause to read what I wrote you will see that I said that being a member is not a requirement. That is quite different from what you are making out I said.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
... first century Christians were organised into congregations with the governing body of older men and apostles rendering decisions on behalf of the brothers from Jerusalem, easily established.

Robbie people "congregating" together does not equate to them being an "organisation" and certainly not one like the JW church. You are stretching the point beyond credibility.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no your claim [divegeester] was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation, which is clearly quite erroneous ...

You are misrepresenting what divegeester said, robbie

Originally posted by galveston75
What would qualify one to be a Christian? Knowledge, Kindness, Love, Devotion, Willingness, Servtitude or Slavery, Courage, Etc?

Jesus said that many would call themselves Christians, but he will tell them "to get away from me".

So scripturally, what is a Christian and what does a person do to be called a CHRISTIAN?

How about they don't do anything but repent. It is a God who does the making of a Christian.

Originally posted by FMF
You are misrepresenting what divegeester said, robbie

mere opinion!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
mere opinion!

Your blatant dishonesty in this is surprising robbie. Please re-read my post in response to Galvs OP.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no your claim was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation, which is clearly
quite erroneous as it can be easily established that the first century Christians were
organised into congregations with the governing body of older men and apostles
rendering decisions on behalf of the brothers from Jerusalem, easily established. Here
...[text shortened]... be a member of, or have a association with,
any temporal religious organisation, body or group

no his claim was that one does not have to belong, not that one musn't belong.

edit: sorry this was pointed out

Originally posted by divegeester
Your blatant dishonesty in this is surprising robbie. Please re-read my post in response to Galvs OP.

no, reading your posts once is quite enough for any man to endure. First of all you
assert that one does not need to be and I quote,

a member of, or have a association with, any temporal religious organisation,
body or group

when it was demonstrated to you that this premise was false based upon the Biblical
evidence that indeed, the early Christians did belong to an organised religion with a
central governing body which rendered important decisions on behalf of all
Christians within that structure, it was changed to and again I quote, to

being a member of a man-made cult organisation

this is clearly different entirely to your first statement, and is quite reminiscent of
your tendency to distort or alter your assertions when pressed with certain facts,
indeed, one who posts partial quotations, taken out of context from articles they
have not read has no recourse to term anyone dishonest.

Indeed how does one fulfil this requirement without association, please explain, you
did state that association was unnecessary,

(Hebrews 10:24-25) . . .And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine
works,  not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom,
but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you behold the day drawing
near.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
[Divegeester's] claim was that a Christian should not belong to an organisation...

No. This is not true. He did not say "a Christian should not belong to an organisation". He said that a Christian is not required to be a member of a religious organisation.

Originally posted by FMF
No. This is not true. He did not say "a Christian should not belong to an organisation". He said that a Christian is not required to be a member of a religious organisation.

no he stated and I quote, a Christian,

has no requirement to belong to, be a member of, or have a association with, any
temporal religious organisation, body or group.

which within the context of the discussion what type or organisations do you think we
are talking about, NGO's, dear oh dear, is this really the best you can do? What type
of organisation do you really think i was referring to? a non religious one? it begs
belief, it really does.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no he stated and I quote, a Christian,

[b]has no requirement to belong to, be a member of, or have a association with, any
temporal religious organisation, body or group.

which within the context of the discussion what type or organisations do you think we
are talking about, NGO's, dear oh dear, is this really the best you can do? Wha ...[text shortened]... do you really think i was referring to? a non religious one? it begs
belief, it really does.[/b]

You have misstated what he said. And continue to do so for some reason. Divegeester said it is not a requirement of a Christian to be a member of a religious organisation. You are claiming that he said "a Christian should not belong to an organisation". That is an untrue or mistaken claim on your part and yet you persist with it.