To My Christion Friends

Originally posted by dj2becker
Say you committed a murder, would the victims of the murder be happy if you just got a pardon and walked away scot free?

If an innocent person was executed in my place, how would that constitute "justice" for the victims?

Originally posted by FMF
How does it relate to "justice"?

In any judicial system, doesn't the judge have the final say?

Originally posted by FMF
If an innocent person was executed in my place, how would that constitute "justice" for the victims?

Justice relates to the law that governs a place does it not?

Originally posted by dj2becker
In any judicial system, doesn't the judge have the final say?

This sidesteps my question.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Justice relates to the law that governs a place does it not?

I asked you this: If an innocent person was executed in my place, how would that constitute "justice" for the victims?

Originally posted by FMF
This sidesteps my question.

Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. Do you agree or disagree?

Originally posted by FMF
I asked you this: If an innocent person was executed in my place, how would that constitute "justice" for the victims?

Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. So it would depend on the laws would it not?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. Do you agree or disagree?

So you are willing to change what "justice" means so that it suits whatever self-serving answer you want to get from your own gimmicky thought exercise?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. So it would depend on the laws would it not?

Let me try it this way: do you personally think that an innocent person being executed in my place, constitutes "justice" for the victims of my crimes?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Say you committed a murder, would the victims of the murder be happy if you just got a pardon and walked away scot free?

Would they be happy if the wrong person was punished?

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you were facing death row and someone offered to take your punishment and your place at the gallows would you accept it or not?

If the person was a relative, a friend, or neighbour, or someone innocent of any crime, and you were guilty, would you accept the offer? I have answered your question. Now you answer your own question.

Originally posted by FMF
So you are willing to change what "justice" means so that it suits whatever self-serving answer you want to get from your own gimmicky thought exercise?

I asked you a question and you have dodged it again.

Originally posted by FMF
Let me try it this way: do you personally think that an innocent person being executed in my place, constitutes "justice" for the victims of my crimes?

Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. So if God makes the laws and this is in line with the laws that he has made, yes justice would be served.

Originally posted by FMF
If the person was a relative, a friend, or neighbour, or someone innocent of any crime, and you were guilty, would you accept the offer? I have answered your question. Now you answer your own question.

If they offered their life willingly with no obligation but out of love like Christ did for his church I would be a fool not to.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Justice relates to how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered. So if God makes the laws and this is in line with the laws that he has made, yes justice would be served.

So you would have me believe that God arranging for Himself to be executed down on earth is somehow explained (to me) by you asserting that it demonstrates "how well the laws of a judicial system are being administered", is that what you mean by your scenario about an innocent man being judicially murdered so a murderer can go free?