Originally posted by robbie carrobie (Genesis 1:30) . . .I have given all green vegetation for food.” And it came to be so. . .
thus God decreed that the vegetation was to serve as food.
Quite so, but who doesn't eat their vegetables apart from 6 year olds? The verse in question does not say: don't eat meat. Do you have any other reasons for believing Adam and Eve were vegetarian or is that it?
Do you also conclude from the verse that there were no poisonous plants, that seaweed was forbidden or that seedless plants were forbidden?
It is not clear from the verse whether only the seeds and fruit were to be consumed, but it certainly seems to be implied.
the posts that he posted have been removed, with the exception of one. i dunno if he is under a forum ban for obscenity , or the moderator found his assertions of 'your such an idiot', 'your moronic', etc etc unpalatable.
Originally posted by Badwater I think humans are omnivores and it's not a big deal.
I believe that this is one of those issues that affects different people differently. Its not one those black and white universal principals as 'thou shall not kill other humans' .
While it is a black or white for killing humans,it is not so with killing animals, it seems that meat eaters have invented many interesting, and often false reasons for why we need to continue to keep eating meat. The bottom line is that 1inch strip on your tounge called 'tastebuds'. Bear in my here that we become accustommed to what we like. We can just as easily spice up vegetables to make them tasty as long as we were prepared to adjust our tastebuds' muscle memory.
Think about all the counter arguements of vegetarianism. Eating vegetables instead of meat makes more sense on almost every level and I challenge anyone to show me that the 'pros' would outweigh the 'cons' for being a meat-eater.
Im around .. playing chess mostly. Im just not posting to Spirituality like before. I just cant stand the stupidity that the JWs in particular post around here.
Like Robbie is claiming that Adam and Eve were vegetarians becuase God said ' eat your vegetables" .. 🙂. But the emptyheaded JW conveniently forgets that Adam and Eve did not always obey God. If Adam and Eve followed Gods commandments there would not be original sin in the first place.
Gods command therefore cannot constitute proof that Adam and Eve followed such a command. Im pretty sure you can see the logic in that .... 🙂
Originally posted by Rajk999 Im around .. playing chess mostly. Im just not posting to Spirituality like before. I just cant stand the stupidity that the JWs in particular post around here.
Like Robbie is claiming that Adam and Eve were vegetarians becuase God said ' eat your vegetables" .. 🙂. But the emptyheaded JW conveniently forgets that Adam and Eve did not always obey God. I ...[text shortened]... at Adam and Eve followed such a command. Im pretty sure you can see the logic in that .... 🙂
oh did the bad ol putty cat get his posts removed? there there ol putty cat, nevermind you can always get a job with Warner brothers, oh well, that's what one gets for posting obscenities and making absurd assertions with no basis in scripture other than speculation with regard to what is not actually written, yes incredibly, the forum shall note that the whole basis of Rajy paji pudding and pies statements are that they have no foundation in scripture, this latest affront to our intelligence, is typical!
Originally posted by Rajk999 Im around .. playing chess mostly. Im just not posting to Spirituality like before. I just cant stand the stupidity that the JWs in particular post around here.
Like Robbie is claiming that Adam and Eve were vegetarians becuase God said ' eat your vegetables" .. 🙂. But the emptyheaded JW conveniently forgets that Adam and Eve did not always obey God. I ...[text shortened]... at Adam and Eve followed such a command. Im pretty sure you can see the logic in that .... 🙂
Originally posted by robbie carrobie oh did the bad ol putty cat get his posts removed? there there ol putty cat, nevermind you can always get a job with Warner brothers, oh well, that's what one gets for posting obscenities and making absurd assertions with no basis in scripture other than speculation with regard to what is not actually written, yes incredibly, the forum shall note th ...[text shortened]... that they have no foundation in scripture, this latest affront to our intelligence, is typical!
Originally posted by karoly aczel I believe that this is one of those issues that affects different people differently. Its not one those black and white universal principals as 'thou shall not kill other humans' .
While it is a black or white for killing humans,it is not so with killing animals, it seems that meat eaters have invented many interesting, and often false reasons for wh ...[text shortened]... nge anyone to show me that the 'pros' would outweigh the 'cons' for being a meat-eater.
Eating vegetables instead of meat makes more sense on almost every level and I challenge anyone to show me that the 'pros' would outweigh the 'cons' for being a meat-eater.
Depending in part on whether you’re a vegan (as opposed to an octo-lavo) vegetarian, both protein and certain micronutrients that are more readily available in meat. One could perhaps make the case that vegetarianism plus the necessary supplements is a moral choice affordable to first-world peoples, but not to third-world peoples.
LemonJello gave me a list of studies (which I might be able to find) on the health benefits of a vegetarian (though not vegan!) diet; perhaps I can find them (or the thread in which he posted them). One of the studies found that a “minimal” (can’t recall how that was defined) meat diet had the same health advantages as a (non-vegan) vegetarian diet.
As Badwater noted: we are naturally omnivores. I don’t think that one has to be a vegetarian to accord animals moral consideration.
Originally posted by vistesd [b]Eating vegetables instead of meat makes more sense on almost every level and I challenge anyone to show me that the 'pros' would outweigh the 'cons' for being a meat-eater.
Depending in part on whether you’re a vegan (as opposed to an octo-lavo) vegetarian, both protein and certain micronutrients that are more readily available in meat. One could ...[text shortened]... vores. I don’t think that one has to be a vegetarian to accord animals moral consideration.[/b]
Agreed!One does not have to be vegetarian, not even vegan to accord animals moral considerations. (Nice to hear from you🙂 ).
Protien and iron I think are the most difficult nutrients to keep up when becoming vegetarian. There are many ways to do this.
(I believe there are areas in the body that can make any nutrient out of any ingredient. Spiritual thing...can't explain it)
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