Originally posted by chaney3 to divegeesterIf you don't admit "mistakes" such as this, then you will find yourself being branded as a liar.
No, that is true [that I have always considered myself a Christian]. If I have said otherwise since, or have said I was never a Christian, it's likely because I was drunk and pissed off. Happy now? Does it make you feel good to have me admit mistakes?
It should feel good to you to be trying to free yourself of such a brand.
So attempting to mock the person who has finally succeeded in getting you to admit that you have claimed false things about yourself is small minded of you.
Telling the truth should set you free, as they say, rather than make you seem petty and small.
Your drunken abusive behaviour aside, I have had your card marked as a liar for about two years. So it's good that you have now set the record straight and I can toss that card away.
Originally posted by chaney3Why worry about someone who is only interested in pissing on other people's lives?
So, you're not interested in why you are weak, what you should do about it, or what Jesus taught? You only want to deflect from sensitive issues and focus on my previous statements from over a year ago?
"Go and sin NO more".
The words of Jesus.
He attacks he does not build up, he insults he does not comfort, focus on what is
important don't worry about someone who is only here to belittle and cause strife.
Originally posted by KellyJay about divegeesterBut aren't you yourself "pissing on his life" here?
Why worry about someone who is only interested in pissing on other people's lives?
He attacks he does not build up, he insults he does not comfort, focus on what is
important don't worry about someone who is only here to belittle and cause strife.
Originally posted by FMFWhen I started posting on this site, I considered myself a Christian, but had major doubts.
If you don't admit "mistakes" such as this, then you will find yourself being branded as a liar.
It should feel good to [b]you to be trying to free yourself of such a brand.
So attempting to mock the person who has finally succeeded in getting you to admit that you have claimed false things about yourself is small minded of you.
Telling the truth ...[text shortened]... two years. So it's good that you have now set the record straight and I can toss that card away.[/b]
I don't fully understand why the "liar" brand surfaced. I have been publicly open and transparent about excessive 'drinking and posting', so why would I lie about Christianity?
Perhaps there has been a failure of communication between me, you and Dive.
Let's clear it up.
#1. I was a Christian
#2. Ugly doubt surfaced
#3. I don't really know what I am at the moment. I believe in a God, am uncertain about ALL of the Bible, and don't know where I stand regarding Jesus and His identity.
I don't feel that I have been lying, but it's obvious that others believe I have.
Originally posted by chaney3Perhaps you lied because you were "drinking and posting".
I don't fully understand why the "liar" brand surfaced. I have been publicly open and transparent about excessive 'drinking and posting', so why would I lie about Christianity?
Perhaps there has been a failure of communication between me, you and Dive.
Let's clear it up.
#1. I was a Christian
#2. Ugly doubt surfaced
#3. I don't really know what I ...[text shortened]... s identity.
I don't feel that I have been lying, but it's obvious that others believe I have.
Originally posted by FMFOne thing at a time.
Well if you said - drinking or no drinking - that you had never been a Christian - was it a lie? Apparently yes.
Do you remember blaming Jesus for your alcoholism?
IF I ever said, while drinking, that I was never a Christian, then I made an error, but I don't consider it a lie. But it seems that you and Dive, and maybe others, have branded me a liar, which I believe is harsh.
I was a Christian.
Originally posted by KellyJayI do have respect for the forum and the people who post here. I have been branded a liar and feel it necessary to try and clear it up.
Why worry about someone who is only interested in pissing on other people's lives?
He attacks he does not build up, he insults he does not comfort, focus on what is
important don't worry about someone who is only here to belittle and cause strife.