What becomes of 4-D spacetime after...

Originally posted by Rajk999
Another 'Council of God' member ?

No. What is the "Council of God" to which you keep referring ?

- sonship

Here's the link again for interested people:

http://www.lsmradio.com/audio/revelation.html

Originally posted by RJHinds
2. The reason they don't have to sorrow as others without hope is given in verse 14. Those who have died in the Lord are with Christ. The souls (immaterial part) of departed Christians are with God and Jesus is going to bring them back with Him when He comes for His Church.

Do you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?

Originally posted by Paul Dirac II
Do you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?

There is a third option, purgatory. There is support in the bible for all three.

Originally posted by Paul Dirac II
Do you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?

There are several different words that were turned into the word "hell"
he could be in hell and still not be suffering the lake of fire yet.
Kelly

Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Originally posted by Rajk999
There is a third option, purgatory. There is support in the bible for all three.

In 2 Cor. 12 Paul speaks of a "third heaven," but I don't recall any mention of first and second heavens. Is purgatory taken to be one of those levels?

Originally posted by Paul Dirac II
Do you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?

My guess is that the soul of Hitler is in Hell now.

Originally posted by Paul Dirac II
In 2 Cor. 12 Paul speaks of a "third heaven," but I don't recall any mention of first and second heavens. Is purgatory taken to be one of those levels?

I have no idea where purgatory is, neither how many 'heavens' there are. There is mention of these heavens and these places in Jewish literature which dates back to hundreds of years BC. The fact that the Bible does not mention these things is no indication that they do not exist, Some people forget that the Bible cannot contain all the information about everything. They therefore reject any other literature as fiction.

Originally posted by Rajk999
I have no idea where purgatory is, neither how many 'heavens' there are. There is mention of these heavens and these places in Jewish literature which dates back to hundreds of years BC. The fact that the Bible does not mention these things is no indication that they do not exist, Some people forget that the Bible cannot contain all the information about everything. They therefore reject any other literature as fiction.

Some people say that the first heaven is the sky where the birds fly and the second heaven is all the space above that which contains no atmosphere.

The "firmament" (sky) and sheol (underground cavern) and so forth are diagrammed in this brief webpage.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl1.htm

It also says, "God was originally viewed as being in a larger-than-human body, who resided in Heaven, seated on a gigantic throne."

Originally posted by Paul Dirac II
The "firmament" (sky) and sheol (underground cavern) and so forth are diagrammed in this brief webpage.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl1.htm

It also says, "God was originally viewed as being in a larger-than-human body, who resided in Heaven, seated on a gigantic throne."

Just go by the text, people's opinions can change over time.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
There are several different words that were turned into the word "hell"
he could be in hell and still not be suffering the lake of fire yet.
Kelly

Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Hell was Loki's daughter, Wodin gave her the part of the underworld murderers and philanderers were sent to.