Originally posted by RJHindsDo you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?
2. The reason they don't have to sorrow as others without hope is given in verse 14. Those who have died in the Lord are with Christ. The souls (immaterial part) of departed Christians are with God and Jesus is going to bring them back with Him when He comes for His Church.
Originally posted by Paul Dirac IIThere are several different words that were turned into the word "hell"
Do you believe that Adolf Hitler has been in hell for 69 years? Or is he "asleep" until being judged at the Second Coming, and only then passing through the portals of hell?
he could be in hell and still not be suffering the lake of fire yet.
Kelly
Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Originally posted by Paul Dirac III have no idea where purgatory is, neither how many 'heavens' there are. There is mention of these heavens and these places in Jewish literature which dates back to hundreds of years BC. The fact that the Bible does not mention these things is no indication that they do not exist, Some people forget that the Bible cannot contain all the information about everything. They therefore reject any other literature as fiction.
In 2 Cor. 12 Paul speaks of a "third heaven," but I don't recall any mention of first and second heavens. Is purgatory taken to be one of those levels?
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Originally posted by Rajk999Some people say that the first heaven is the sky where the birds fly and the second heaven is all the space above that which contains no atmosphere.
I have no idea where purgatory is, neither how many 'heavens' there are. There is mention of these heavens and these places in Jewish literature which dates back to hundreds of years BC. The fact that the Bible does not mention these things is no indication that they do not exist, Some people forget that the Bible cannot contain all the information about everything. They therefore reject any other literature as fiction.
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The "firmament" (sky) and sheol (underground cavern) and so forth are diagrammed in this brief webpage.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl1.htm
It also says, "God was originally viewed as being in a larger-than-human body, who resided in Heaven, seated on a gigantic throne."
Originally posted by Paul Dirac IIJust go by the text, people's opinions can change over time.
The "firmament" (sky) and sheol (underground cavern) and so forth are diagrammed in this brief webpage.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl1.htm
It also says, "God was originally viewed as being in a larger-than-human body, who resided in Heaven, seated on a gigantic throne."
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayHell was Loki's daughter, Wodin gave her the part of the underworld murderers and philanderers were sent to.
There are several different words that were turned into the word "hell"
he could be in hell and still not be suffering the lake of fire yet.
Kelly
Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.