What non-believers struggle with -

@pb1022 said
Well I certainly disagree that it’s weak evidence. But it’s only one example. Donating one’s time to directly help the needy and poor is obviously another example.

Muslims and Jews and Hindus and atheists and all manner of other non-Christians "donate their time to directly help the needy and poor".

@fmf said
And yet, despite your - for all intents and purposes - self-aggrandizing claims about your own immortality and supernatural transformation made here on this website - online disinhibition syndrome has a stronger effect on you than "God's Holy Spirit", day in day out, not by accident.

You can pretend to sit in judgment of me and make all the false accusations you want. Bothers me not a whit.

I’ve already explained why you do it and I have no interest in enabling and exacerbating the root of that behavior and so will not be responding to your personal smears and accusations.

I’m not quite sure what you’re looking for.

Point to something about your own words and deeds on this forum, things that have happened here in public [I am not asking about your private life], that exhibit the supposed influence of "God's Holy Spirit".

@pb1022 said
You can pretend to sit in judgment of me and make all the false accusations you want.

I am just asking you to substantiate your claims about yourself.

@fmf said
Muslims and Jews and Hindus and atheists and all manner of other non-Christians "donate their time to directly help the needy and poor".

Well, again, you’re attempting to evaluate a person in their present-day state and judge whether they’re “sufficiently Christian” without knowing anything about what they were like before they became a Christian and all the obstacles and challenges they’ve overcome in their walk with Christ.

It’s a flawed exercise, and while it may satisfy your cravings to sit in judgment of other people, the actual knowledge you’re gaining from such a flawed exercise is nil.

@pb1022 said
I’ve already explained why you do it and I have no interest in enabling and exacerbating the root of that behavior and so will not be responding to your personal smears and accusations.

You are running away from a conversation about your faith-in-action.

@fmf said
I am just asking you to substantiate your claims about yourself.

You can pretend to sit in judgment of me and make all the false accusations you want. Bothers me not a whit.

I’ve already explained why you do it and I have no interest in enabling and exacerbating the root of that behavior and so will not be responding to your personal smears and accusations.

@pb1022 said
Well, again, you’re attempting to evaluate a person in their present-day state and judge whether they’re “sufficiently Christian” without knowing anything about what they were like before they became a Christian and all the obstacles and challenges they’ve overcome in their walk with Christ.

There are people who might start donating their time to directly help the needy and poor after watching a TV documentary or after walking through a slum in Jakarta.

Or because their non-Christian religious leaders urge them to or their family and neighbours do it.

But, by golly, when it happens in a "Christian" it's down to a supernatural transformation instigated by "the indwelling Holy Spirit" is it?

@pb1022 said
You can pretend to sit in judgment of me and make all the false accusations you want.

This is a conversation about the claims you make about yourself. I am just asking you to substantiate them that's all.

@pb1022 said
I’ve already explained why you do it and I have no interest in enabling and exacerbating the root of that behavior and so will not be responding to your personal smears and accusations.

Don't run away.

@fmf said
Point to something about your own words and deeds on this forum, things that have happened here in public [I am not asking about your private life], that exhibit the supposed influence of "God's Holy Spirit".

We’ve been over this before.

Sitting on a computer in this forum and creating threads in which you endlessly argue and sit in judgment of other people may constitute your entire life but not mine.

I suggest you evaluate your own behavior in here - your malicious and repeated lies, your obnoxious judgmentalism, your trolling, your pseudo-intellectualism and your pool whizzing when your argument’s been blown out of the water - before trying to sit in judgment of someone else.

@pb1022 said
I suggest you evaluate your own behavior in here - your malicious and repeated lies, your obnoxious judgmentalism, your trolling, your pseudo-intellectualism and your pool whizzing when your argument’s been blown out of the water - before trying to sit in judgment of someone else.

Why are you running away?

@pb1022 said
Sitting on a computer in this forum and creating threads in which you endlessly argue and sit in judgment of other people may constitute your entire life but not mine.

But we are not talking about "your entire life".

We are talking about when you are "sitting on a computer in this forum and creating threads in which you endlessly argue and sit in judgment over other people".

@fmf said
Don't run away.

No interest in enabling and exacerbating the root cause (or causes) of your behavior.

You asked for examples and you got them.

And you were shown how and why your request was flawed.

And because your pseudo-intellectualism was exposed yet again, you’re pool whizzing.

Feel free to whizz without me.

@pb1022 said
No interest in enabling and exacerbating the root cause (or causes) of your behavior.

The "root cause" of my participation in this community is my interest in the topics and themes that get discussed here. Don't run away from this discussion about the claims you make about yourself. Why is the supposed influence of "God's Holy Spirit" on you weaker than the influence of online disinhibition?