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Originally posted by FMFnative Americans also practised shunning, why don't you ever mention them? and the
Do you condemn the way that JWs sometimes shun each other for religious reasons? Do you condemn the way that your mother was condemned for religious reasons?
practice is Biblically established, Jehovahs witnesses did not originate it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere are hundreds and hundreds of millions of adherents who do not use shunning against people for religious reasons. Whether Jehovahs Witnesses "originated" or not, each person who uses forms of psychological bullying over ideological issues should be held accountable for their actions, more especially if they tout it as an example of moral behaviour.
the practice is Biblically established, Jehovahs witnesses did not originate it.
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-Removed-Forgive me if I'm wrong, but where did G75 "complain" about being shunned? I seem to recall where he said it didn't bother him at all.
Believers make all kinds of sacrifices all the time... and do so cheerfully. (not to say others don't do it as well) As a matter of fact, the bible teaches that good works that are not done cheerfully are counted as negative, not positive. Better for someone to not give at all, than to give begrudgingly.
All G75 asked was, what sacrifices have believers endured or given. Surely, an entire family shunning 1 family member would be seen--when compared to no shunning at all--as a certain level of burden, or, sacrifice. But that doesn't necessarily mean, as you suggest, that G75 is whining and complaining about it. I see it as just the opposite, actually.
Originally posted by sumydidThanks. But if you've read any of his postings you will quickly learn his negative motives on just about every subject he responds too. I can't explain why but he's pretty consistant with that.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but where did G75 "complain" about being shunned? I seem to recall where he said it didn't bother him at all.
Believers make all kinds of sacrifices all the time... and do so cheerfully. (not to say others don't do it as well) As a matter of fact, the bible teaches that good works that are not done cheerfully are counted as neg ...[text shortened]... t, that G75 is whining and complaining about it. I see it as just the opposite, actually.
I guess he's apponted himself as some kind of judge here in the forums.
Originally posted by sumydidNo I promise there is no trap. Just an honest question to all here.
My answer is everything.
However if this is kind of a "trap" question, like, once I answer "everything," then you say, "Then why do you have a computer or any money? You obviously are not willing to give up everything..." etc... if it's THAT kind of question, my response is, Jesus has not required that I give up what little I have, and if He ever did explicitly require such, I would do so without hesitation.
Originally posted by galveston75* BUMP * for galveston75
Well so far he has not posted what he said I said. I'm still waitng.
Do you condemn the way that JWs sometimes shun each other for religious reasons? Do you condemn the way that your mother was condemned for religious reasons?
Originally posted by FMFyawn, the practice is Biblical and we are not prepared to be morally tyrannised over
There are hundreds and hundreds of millions of adherents who do not use shunning against people for religious reasons. Whether Jehovahs Witnesses "originated" or not, each person who uses forms of psychological bullying over ideological issues should be held accountable for their actions, more especially if they tout it as an example of moral behaviour.
be some self certified spiritual quack who does not even know what is the nature of his
God that he professes to worship.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMisanthropic or sociopathic behaviour cannot simply be passed off as moral behaviour because a subjective interpretation of a book asserts that it is moral behaviour.
yawn, the practice is Biblical and we are not prepared to be morally tyrannised over
be some self certified spiritual quack who does not even know what is the nature of his
God that he professes to worship.
If you are the free moral agent that you profess to be, you have to take responsibility for the pronouncements on morality that you make, rather than just, for all intents and purposes, declare that you read it in a book.
Shunning demonstrates no generosity of spirit or empathy, it can clearly do harm, it is effectively a form of revenge, and it appears to bolster the vanity of those who connive to subject others to it.
I'd say this can hardly be described as "moral behaviour" in any respect, and it's interesting that all you can come up with is "the practice is Biblical" and then claim you are being "tyrannised over" when asked to explain the substance of the morality of the practice.
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Originally posted by galveston75Yes indeed, ask him about the nature of his God and hes is at a loss to explain a single
Thanks. But if you've read any of his postings you will quickly learn his negative motives on just about every subject he responds too. I can't explain why but he's pretty consistant with that.
I guess he's apponted himself as some kind of judge here in the forums.
facet, yet he deems himself adequately qualified to judge the house servant of
another. He harbours the pretence that his opinions, which for the most part are self
certified as bone fide are of some importance and to my knowledge has never
produced a shred of empirical evidence to back up a single claim. He modus operandi
is to try to draw emotive assertions with the use of sensationalistic language in the
hope of tripping up a poster with some inconsistency or to play one poster against
another with the hope of achieving the same. I have never learned a single thing from
any of the lengthy texts that i have exchanged other than my time is better employed
elsewhere.