Spirituality
13 May 23
16 May 23
@kellyjay saidIt was mans decision to remove books from what Jesus called scripture. God did not decide to do that. The book you worship like a fool, is the bible decided upon by men, not God. You have gone after men, churches and false doctrines. This is why your heart is so far from the teachings of Christ.
Nothing is missing, I've been talking about the written Word of God and you are saying it was changed to the words of man. So when you quote the Bible you are according to you quoting the word of man, deceiving others and yourself. I'm well aware Jesus is the Word of God made flesh, where do I get that information not from the word of man, but the written Word of God, deceiver.
@rajk999 saidAdding or removing an entire book out of a collection of books does not alter the text in either the books removed or the books kept. You are a deceiver even your claims about what was done don't do the things you claim. The books and letters before they were compiled into the Bible if you are going to suggest they were different that what was translated into various languages I suggest you produce the originals so a comparison can be made. The earliest copies in several languages spread around the world back up the translations we have today with minor changes that do not alter the meaning.
It was mans decision to remove books from what Jesus called scripture. God did not decide to do that. The book you worship like a fool, is the bible decided upon by men, not God. You have gone after men, churches and false doctrines. This is why your heart is so far from the teachings of Christ.
You make claims about people you don't know as if they were true claiming you know these things as facts, liar! You make claims about the Word of God that you cannot produce evidence for again, liar the truth is not in you.
You cannot produce anything outside of the Bible that has not been trashed by you to back up your claims about what Jesus taught, so coming from you the only thing you got is the words of men, not God, deceiver.
@rajk999 saidHow do you know if God didn't have a hand in it, the God you claim to worship is not in charge of the universe, He doesn't pay attention to the very revelation He has given to people. You worship a little tiny god that makes you work for your salvation.
It was mans decision to remove books from what Jesus called scripture. God did not decide to do that. The book you worship like a fool, is the bible decided upon by men, not God. You have gone after men, churches and false doctrines. This is why your heart is so far from the teachings of Christ.
16 May 23
@kellyjay saidWhat a comedian .... lol.
How do you know if God didn't have a hand in it, the God you claim to worship is not in charge of the universe, He doesn't pay attention to the very revelation He has given to people. You worship a little tiny god that makes you work for your salvation.
16 May 23
@kellyjay saidAs is often the case Kelly, you seem unable to take on board what has been said to you. Where is your evidence that there is life after death, what can you offer, other than your faith, to even partly substantiate the claim?
Really, if we cannot look at it with science it must not be real, sounds strangely familiar to your scientific explanation, you are just circulating back to it. I guess you got nothing for something you wish to deny and that is good enough for you.
Our shared reality in this world is that everything has a beginning and an end. To claim something outside of this shared reality is illogical and really quite meaningless.
@kellyjay saidThis simply isn't true. Take, for example, if the Gospel of Thomas had been included in the Bible, depicting the early life of Jesus where he was, at times, precocious and malevolent. Of course this would have affected the book in its entirety, raising contradictions and changing the way Jesus himself was perceived.
Adding or removing an entire book out of a collection of books does not alter the text in either the books removed or the books kept.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou really need to look at what I said, not being included does not change what was said in the Gospel of Thomas neither did any of the books of the Bible get changed because of the books not included there are 66 different books in the Bible adding or removing anything doesn't alter the contents of any of them. If there were questions about authorship or anything else books were not included and you give an example of why that book wasn't added. The scriptures don't contradict themselves and if anything contradicted the rest it didn't get added with cause.
This simply isn't true. Take, for example, if the Gospel of Thomas had been included in the Bible, depicting the early life of Jesus where he was, at times, precocious and malevolent. Of course this would have affected the book in its entirety, raising contradictions and changing the way Jesus himself was perceived.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYour reasoning is nothing, you got nothing and that is good enough for you, that is not a reason, that is an excuse.
As is often the case Kelly, you seem unable to take on board what has been said to you. Where is your evidence that there is life after death, what can you offer, other than your faith, to even partly substantiate the claim?
Our shared reality in this world is that everything has a beginning and an end. To claim something outside of this shared reality is illogical and really quite meaningless.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThe world is ripe with stories about people dying and leaving their bodies, then coming back to talk about the experience, the scriptures also point to this, I have cause to accept it's a part of our reality, your excuse is void of anything we can point, too because nothing is not substantive we can look at. There are many things science cannot measure, it doesn't turn them into things we reject it only shows science is not the means to answer every question.
As is often the case Kelly, you seem unable to take on board what has been said to you. Where is your evidence that there is life after death, what can you offer, other than your faith, to even partly substantiate the claim?
Our shared reality in this world is that everything has a beginning and an end. To claim something outside of this shared reality is illogical and really quite meaningless.
@kellyjay saidAgain, the Gospel of Thomas depicts a quite malevolent Jesus in his infancy. It's inclusion in the Bible would have affected the way the other books would have been perceived. This is one of the reasons it wasn't included, to remove the contradiction.
You really need to look at what I said, not being included does not change what was said in the Gospel of Thomas neither did any of the books of the Bible get changed because of the books not included there are 66 different books in the Bible adding or removing anything doesn't alter the contents of any of them. If there were questions about authorship or anything else book ...[text shortened]... es don't contradict themselves and if anything contradicted the rest it didn't get added with cause.
That said, the Bible is riddled with contradictions, whether you accept that or not. (Simply riddled with them).
@kellyjay saidReason should be based on tangible and verifiable facts. Please provide those for life after death, or simply accept you have nothing more than faith. (AKA Pie in the sky).
Your reasoning is nothing, you got nothing and that is good enough for you, that is not a reason, that is an excuse.
@kellyjay saidAll such stories are complete nonsense or else a misconstruing of lucid dreams etc. What they are not is compelling evidence of life after death.
The world is ripe with stories about people dying and leaving their bodies, then coming back to talk about the experience