What's important?

Originally posted by DeepThought
If you ask a Muslim what is important in their religion then my experience is that one will get a simple answer: "Allah is God and Mohammed is his Prophet.". Hardly any muslims post here, if any are reading then please forgive me if I have it wrong and correct what I've said.

The vast majority of theists who post here are Christian, so for all the Ch ...[text shortened]... religions contributed. Possibly atheists might like to give a central tenet that they live by.

".., so for all the Christians here what in your opinion is most important in your religion."

The central tenet of Christianity is Christ, and Him according to the "revelation of the mystery", which is contained in Romans through Philemon. In those 13 books is the body of doctrine designed for the Church the Body of Christ.

Romans 16:25-27
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
To God only wise, [be] glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Ephesians 3:7
Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly [places] might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

Access with confidence. Without the knowledge of Christ one cannot know God the Father. Without Christ there is no life.

Originally posted by Rajk999
How does your comment fit into the thread?
Are you saying that you comment is out of place then?

I'm saying you asking me if I was insane is an attack on me for simply
saying Jesus said we are to love one another. You must really have your
back up against the wall to think loving your fellowman is insane, when
I was not EVEN TALKING to you.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
..., when
I was not EVEN TALKING to you.
Kelly

It's a discussion forum - you are talking to everyone.
AND DONT SHOUT

What is OSAS? I was told I was a part of that group, but I have no idea what that group is. Anyone?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
It's a discussion forum - you are talking to everyone.
AND DONT SHOUT

No, he was talking to one person. The fact that everyone can see this does not mean he was talking to everyone... not everyone here speaks with one eye constantly focused on everyone else.

Originally posted by lemon lime
No, he was talking to one person. The fact that everyone can see this does not mean he was talking to everyone... not everyone here speaks with one eye constantly focused on everyone else.

No. He may have been addressing someone in particular but this
is communal forum - anyone that doesn't like it can use a PM.
And btw ... I wasn't talking to you was I ???

Originally posted by lemon lime
What is OSAS? I was told I was a part of that group, but I have no idea what that group is. Anyone?

"Once saved, always saved".

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm saying you asking me if I was insane is an attack on me for simply
saying Jesus said we are to love one another. You must really have your
back up against the wall to think loving your fellowman is insane, when
I was not EVEN TALKING to you.
Kelly

This is not the first time you did this. Your aim is to divert attention away from my questions which is simply asking a poster to provide some references in support of a doctrine.

What is going on here is that you have already not been able [in our discussions] to provide references to support similar doctrines, and you are well aware as I have demonstrated over and over that your beliefs have very little Biblical support.

If you think what Christ meant by brotherly love is to be a 'yessman' and agree with everyones false doctrines then you have nothing of Christ and the Apostles in you.

Originally posted by Rajk999
This is not the first time you did this. Your aim is to divert attention away from my questions which is simply asking a poster to provide some references in support of a doctrine.

What is going on here is that you have already not been able [in our discussions] to provide references to support similar doctrines, and you are well aware as I have demonstr ...[text shortened]... nd agree with everyones false doctrines then you have nothing of Christ and the Apostles in you.

Listen, I think you are a bright person. I do believe you can walk and chew
gum at the same time. Not every post in any thread you are in has to be
responded by you. I have no issue directing any point to you directly that
I want you to answer, and I have no issue posting any point to the full
board by not responding directly to anyone's posts just by putting a point
out there for everyone to read.

If you think every point that does not directly agree with what you are
saying at the moment that is not my fault. You are huge on we must obey
the commands of Jesus Christ, I gave His two biggest and you find fault
with that? Seriously, when you start talking about how we are to be obeying
the Lord and not just assume we are saved by not following Christ's Words
I am your cheering section! I agree with you completely, we need to obey
the Lord and there is no excuse to not do that.

With respect towards you showing me my beliefs have little Biblical support
you have not done that! Last thing I remember you saying about my posts
directly to you was that you disagreed without giving me scriptural support
for your disagreement.
Kelly

Originally posted by Rajk999
This is not the first time you did this. Your aim is to divert attention away from my questions which is simply asking a poster to provide some references in support of a doctrine.

What is going on here is that you have already not been able [in our discussions] to provide references to support similar doctrines, and you are well aware as I have demonstr ...[text shortened]... nd agree with everyones false doctrines then you have nothing of Christ and the Apostles in you.

Let me post this again, because you did not address any of this using
scripture you only backed away from discussion without telling me why
this was wrong. Please use scripture to show me the errors, if you are
going to suggest I have very little Biblical support you should address the
Biblical support I give you for my views.

"Jesus stressed how vital being born again was, we cannot enter the
Kingdom of God unless we are born of the Spirit of God. This
transformation cannot be self-generated as Jesus points out, Spirit gives
birth to spirit. Those of us who have not experienced God in this fashion
are still in their flesh as we were just born in the flesh.

John 3: New International Version (NIV)
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

Jesus continues with the distinction between those who do not put their
faith in Him, He declares that they are condemned already. That is the
state of man without God’s Spirit.

John 3: New International Version (NIV)
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

God gives us His Spirit, who actually lives in us a deposit upon our lives.
We are to walk out our lives doing good works, in Him. He is to be our
guide, our teacher, our helper.

2 Timothy 1:13-15New International Version (NIV)
13 What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. 14 Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.

Those who are only born to the flesh are there, they are not in the Spirit
of God, they have not accepted Jesus Christ, their lives are simply
hostile towards God. So I do not see anyone who isn’t in God
pleasing God let alone being accepted by God outside of Jesus Chrst.

Romans 8:New International Version (NIV)
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.


Does help you understand me?
Kelly"

Originally posted by KellyJay
Listen, I think you are a bright person. I do believe you can walk and chew
gum at the same time. Not every post in any thread you are in has to be
responded by you. I have no issue directing any point to you directly that
I want you to answer, and I have no issue posting any point to the full
board by not responding directly to anyone's posts just by p ...[text shortened]... o you was that you disagreed without giving me scriptural support
for your disagreement.
Kelly

I did not in any way find fault with your first post in this thread. Did you not see that I endorsed the point you made on pg 1?

Originally posted by Rajk999
I did not in any way find fault with your first post in this thread. Did you not see that I endorsed the point you made on pg 1?

Yes I did see, I agree you didn't find fault in the first post.
More than that, you went out of your way to agree with me.
You did change you tune in my other posts.
Kelly

Originally posted by wolfgang59
No. He may have been addressing someone in particular but this
is communal forum - anyone that doesn't like it can use a PM.
And btw ... I wasn't talking to you was I ???

He wasn't talking to you either, and no one is saying this isn't a communal forum. But if you feel free to comment on any conversation then why would you have a problem with anyone else doing it?

Originally posted by lemon lime
He wasn't talking to you either, and no one is saying this isn't a communal forum. But if you feel free to comment on any conversation then why would you have a problem with anyone else doing it?

🙄
I was being ironic dimwit
🙄

But if you feel I shouldn't comment on any conversation why can you?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
🙄
I was being ironic dimwit
🙄

But if you feel I shouldn't comment on any conversation why can you?

The irony is apparent dimbulb 😛