Originally posted by chronicmanI'm not going to trawl through that. All I'm asking is that you explain in your own words what you originally posted. Are you unable to do that?
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Originally posted by chronicmanI take it you support the theory of evolution, if so , good for you.
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Research has provided many examples of successive species and genera (and in some cases families) linking major higher taxa of order or class rank (Cuffey, 1984, p. 266). For example, within Phylum Mollusca, transitional fossils have been found b ...[text shortened]... jeta & Runnegar, 1976, 1979) , [5] Subclass Bactritoidea and Subclass Ammonoidea (Erben, 1966).
Originally posted by chronicmanI think we're at cross purposes. Your original post made it seem like you support creationism (or at least are against evolution), your next one enforced this and now it seems like you're suggesting that you believe in evolution. Can you please just state what you believe and what point you wre making?
theres proof of horse evolution. right there in black and white. ok by me you don't wanna read it.
Originally posted by StarrmanI believe this re-post will help:
I think we're at cross purposes. Your original post made it seem like you support creationism (or at least are against evolution), your next one enforced this and now it seems like you're suggesting that you believe in evolution. Can you please just state what you believe and what point you wre making?
Originally posted by Chronicman
Let me start by saying I am not one who believes we are from any other creature that walks the earth today.
But we have to remember Adam was created to walk in the garden. The garden was a place self sustaining to Adam.
After Adam left the garden he knowingly or not started to evolve. He had to, his offspring would have had to, they where not created to walk the earth. The earth would have had a heavy burden on them. If they didn’t evolve they could not have lived very long.
For some reason I can't explain we can't seem to dig deep enough into the earth to find any of Adams offspring. (I would love to see the day we do)
But we can find bones of humans and even though there similar there not the same as you and I today.
So like it or not we have evolved.
But for you to have faith and believe in God. You can’t agree with me. That’s just poppycock.
You can believe in God and evolution and they do not have to conflict with each other.
-JC
Originally posted by ChurlantIs that some crazy hybrid that not only threatens to make less sense than standard YEC arguments but also seems to be logically contradictory?
I believe this re-post will help:
Originally posted by Chronicman
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Let me start by saying I am not one who believes we are from any other creature that walks the earth today.
But we have to remember Adam was created to walk in the garden. The garden was a place self sustaining to Adam.
After Adam left the garden he knowingly or not star ...[text shortened]... can believe in God and evolution and they do not have to conflict with each other.
-JC[/b]
Originally posted by StarrmanOk i'll try, I am new to faith, I have always believed in God, however I find it hard to find a religion that suites me, I have always believed in evolution. I now believe you can believe in both, what I don't understand is why it would be so hard to believe God created us with the ability to adjust ourselves. Seeing how the earth’s non-living creations are in a constant state of change. Why wouldn’t its living creations be?
I think we're at cross purposes. Your original post made it seem like you support creationism (or at least are against evolution), your next one enforced this and now it seems like you're suggesting that you believe in evolution. Can you please just state what you believe and what point you wre making?
Originally posted by chronicmanAhh, right, I get you now. I have no problem with a view that if god created life (not the Garden of Eden version, but that he created the universe and that life came into existence based on his plan), we could have evolved from there. I disagree that god was responsible, but if I am wrong on that point, then at least evolution is not precluded.
Ok i'll try, I am new to faith, I have always believed in God, however I find it hard to find a religion that suites me, I have always believed in evolution. I now believe you can believe in both, what I don't understand is why it would be so hard to believe God created us with the ability to adjust ourselves. Seeing how the earth’s non-living creations are in a constant state of change. Why wouldn’t its living creations be?
If however you are saying that the Garden of Eden story is correct and that the Adam and Eve that left the garden then evolved into the humans we are today I disagree, I cannot reconcile evolution with the Eden story at all.
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Originally posted by StarrmanI have no argument there. It was simply an attempt to tie one to the other for those who say you can't believe both.
If however you are saying that the Garden of Eden story is correct and that the Adam and Eve that left the garden then evolved into the humans we are today I disagree, I cannot reconcile evolution with the Eden story at all.[/b]
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Originally posted by chronicmanIt is simple there is a distain for the 'people' that disagree with the
I am not sure what your on about, So I can't coment
belief of evolution, and an acceptance of those that do agree with
the belief in evolution. All points are taken not on face value, but
instead on the beliefs of those that are expressing them. If you follow
the threads on this subject you will see that those that believe in
evolution will make the people they are disagreeing the subject
instead of staying on topic, questioning motives, insulting the
intelligence and so on. Some will want to know where you stand
before they give your posts credit or not, it isn’t always about just
about the points you make, unless you make your points badly.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayYou have yet to make a point relating to evolution or creationism KJ so I wouldn't start advising people. You evade, hide behind phrases such as 'functionally complex' and ask rhetorical questions with no relation to the real world and very little to the subject at hand.
It is simple there is a distain for the 'people' that disagree with the
belief of evolution, and an acceptance of those that do agree with
the belief in evolution. All points are taken not on face value, but
instead on the beliefs of those that are expressing them. If you follow
the threads on this subject you will see that those that believe in
evolut ...[text shortened]... isn’t always about just
about the points you make, unless you make your points badly.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayStupid is as stupid does, Kelly. If the views presented are deemed ridiculous and unsupportable, they deserve nothing more.
It is simple there is a distain for the 'people' that disagree with the
belief of evolution, and an acceptance of those that do agree with
the belief in evolution. All points are taken not on face value, but
instead on the beliefs of those that are expressing them. If you follow
the threads on this subject you will see that those that believe in
evolut ...[text shortened]... isn’t always about just
about the points you make, unless you make your points badly.
Kelly