1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    08 Jun '13 04:35
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Why should we believe a story that changes every 10 to 20 years? Isn't it more reasonable to believe one that has not changed, but has remained the same over thousands of years? One is built on the shifting sand of lies and the other on the solid ground of truth. Man did not evolve from monkeys. Man was created by an intelligent designer, who most of us call God.

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    We cannot disprove god but I think we can deduce he/she/it
    is either not intelligent (The Stupid Designer) or did not design us.
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    08 Jun '13 04:47
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Why should we believe a story that changes every 10 to 20 years? Isn't it more reasonable to believe one that has not changed, but has remained the same over thousands of years? One is built on the shifting sand of lies and the other on the solid ground of truth. Man did not evolve from monkeys. Man was created by an intelligent designer, who most of us call God.

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    It changes because of further evidence and fine tuning, not rejection of evolution, the main story hasn't changed, its the details that have changed and that because of advancing instrumentation enabling more and more subtle experiments in the lab that can suss out more detail about DNA and the changes that happen there. We don't go, ah, 10 years ago we were so stupid, its more like 10 years ago they didn't know about protean folding and now we can do that on a computer. It is advancing, not going up and down in knowledge like you are implying.
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    08 Jun '13 07:39
    The question is why is man religious in nature? Man innately is religious even in this modern world with science and technology


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    08 Jun '13 12:06
    Originally posted by menace71
    The question is why is man religious in nature? Man innately is religious even in this modern world with science and technology


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    Mankind may have self directed religion through evolution, breeding it into us so deeply we can't get out of it, like an addiction stronger than nicotine.
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    08 Jun '13 18:40
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It changes because of further evidence and fine tuning, not rejection of evolution, the main story hasn't changed, its the details that have changed and that because of advancing instrumentation enabling more and more subtle experiments in the lab that can suss out more detail about DNA and the changes that happen there. We don't go, ah, 10 years ago we wer ...[text shortened]... hat on a computer. It is advancing, not going up and down in knowledge like you are implying.
    Well when the details change enough to agree with the details in the Holy Bible, then it will be worth believing.

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    08 Jun '13 18:42
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Mankind may have self directed religion through evolution, breeding it into us so deeply we can't get out of it, like an addiction stronger than nicotine.
    God made man in His image and we just can't get that image out of us.

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    08 Jun '13 21:00
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God made man in His image and we just can't get that image out of us.

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    It was the other way 'round. Man made this god in his own image. Did you think your god looks like a man? When it lives in space outside of our universe? Floating around in space, this entity would have no need for a human body, it would be more like an animated cloud.
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    08 Jun '13 21:10
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It was the other way 'round. Man made this god in his own image. Did you think your god looks like a man? When it lives in space outside of our universe? Floating around in space, this entity would have no need for a human body, it would be more like an animated cloud.
    God did have need of a human body, because His body is much to large for us to see. That is one reason God was manifested in the flesh through Jesus the Christ.

    And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

    God was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.


    (1 Timothy 3:16 NKJV)
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    09 Jun '13 00:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]God did have need of a human body, because His body is much to large for us to see. That is one reason God was manifested in the flesh through Jesus the Christ.
    Wait. God needed a human body because his body is much too big for us to see. Has anyone ever called you a large bag of mixed nuts ? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
    Why did your god use such a small bush to talk to Moses ? 🙄🙄🙄
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    09 Jun '13 01:21
    Originally posted by caissad4
    Wait. God needed a human body because his body is much too big for us to see. Has anyone ever called you a large bag of mixed nuts ? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
    Why did your god use such a small bush to talk to Moses ? 🙄🙄🙄
    I have decided not to answer nonsense questions like those, because they have no instructive value.

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    09 Jun '13 01:42
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God did have need of a human body, because His body is much to large for us to see. That is one reason God was manifested in the flesh through Jesus the Christ.

    [b]And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

    God was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.


    (1 Timothy 3:16 NKJV)[/b]
    So if we were a race of very intelligent reptiles, your god would have appeared to us in that form?
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    09 Jun '13 03:40
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So if we were a race of very intelligent reptiles, your god would have appeared to us in that form?
    Another nonsense question.

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    09 Jun '13 04:05
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So if we were a race of very intelligent reptiles, your god would have appeared to us in that form?
    It's okay, Ron, you can step aside and let someone with a brain answer this.

    God made us in His image. If we were a race of very intelligent reptiles, it would probably be because God's image was reptile in nature, so yes.
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    09 Jun '13 04:10
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It was the other way 'round. Man made this god in his own image. Did you think your god looks like a man? When it lives in space outside of our universe? Floating around in space, this entity would have no need for a human body, it would be more like an animated cloud.
    I think it's more probable that our souls are God-like. We (our souls are far more 'we' than our bodies are) are made internally as an image of God. Like Yoda said, "Luminous beings are we! Not this crude matter."
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    09 Jun '13 04:37
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    It's okay, Ron, you can step aside and let someone with a brain answer this.

    God made us in His image. If we were a race of very intelligent reptiles, it would probably be because God's image was reptile in nature, so yes.
    Okay. I'll let you answer the nonsense questions, since you have a brain for that sort of thing.

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