16 May 05
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamDo these "gardening" angels have green thumbs?
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
Kind of a Freudian undertone to your post with all the sky-Daddy talk.
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamWhat would that angel be growing? I'm curious.
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
16 May 05
I believe some fear God or simply don't believe in God but hate is an awefully strong word. I can't say I have ever known anyone to say they hate God. And if they do I believe it comes from a deep unhappiness and self loathing from within projected onto the supposed creator of their unhappiness.
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamI dont hat my god... or yours.. i just question every thing... or id consider myself stupid...
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamThe only things I value are happiness and pleasure, and the removal of suffering. As God is supposedly omnipotent yet suffering exists and pleasure could be increased in the world, I do not respect him - if he exists. He is not like a perfect father in my view.
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
I think it's bizaare to think that my father would torture and kill his only son (odd - I guess I was adopted) to "pay" for (in God's view) the crimes everyone but that one son committed. This is not something I respect or admire.
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamMakes about as much sense to hate god as it does to hate Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.
God is like a perfect father that takes care of you and watches over you. He has a gardening angel watching over all of us. Even for none believers. I have had several incidents in my life that i believe God was over me. Come on God was even willing to give up his own son so that all of or sins would be forgiven. 🙂
16 May 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAThousandYoung: "The only things I value are happiness and pleasure, and the removal of suffering."
The only things I value are happiness and pleasure, and the removal of suffering. As God is supposedly omnipotent yet suffering exists and pleasure could be increased in the world, I do not respect him - if he exists. He is not like a perfect father in my view.
I think it's bizaare to think that my father would torture and kill his only son (odd ...[text shortened]... e crimes everyone but that one son committed. This is not something I respect or admire.
Is that what they call "Hedonism" ?
16 May 05
Originally posted by SratpamSo your definition of "perfect father" is "someone who is willing to give up his own son"? Or is he like a "perfect father" for everyone but his own son? But even if I disregard that part, I guess our views of a "perfect father" differ widely. For me, a "perfect father" would help his children grow into independent beings who can make their own choices, and he would respect those choices even if he wouldn't necessarily like them. He would love and respect his children, and he would be happy if they also love and respect him, but if they don't for some reason (for example because he hasn't shown his love and respect in a way they can understand), he wouldn't punish them, but rather try to find out how to earn their love and respect. If that Christian god exists (which seems highly unlikely), he hasn't given me a mind which can perceive him and his love and respect for me, yet he seems to expect me to love and respect him, and at least according to some Christians he is going to punish me for not doing that.
God is like a perfect father <snip> Come on God was even willing to give up his own son
I don't hate god, because you can't hate something you don't believe in. If I had proof of his existence, and if I had proof that he actually did and continues to do those things described in the bible (e.g. giving up his own son or punishing people just for not believing in him), I might hate him.