1. PenTesting
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    17 Jun '18 16:23
    Originally posted by @secondson
    You have a pinheaded perspective of scripture.

    John 5:17,18
    But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
    ¶ Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

    Hebrews 1:1-3
    God, who at sundry times and in divers manner ...[text shortened]... ower, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
    Let me restate

    Where did JESUS say he was God.
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    17 Jun '18 16:481 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    I am not asking you whether you reckon the question is "moot". For what theological reasons do some Christians believe that Catholics will not be "saved"? Some go further and view the Catholic Church as a "Satanic" cult. What are their theological justifications for such a view?
    Without pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
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    17 Jun '18 16:58
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Without pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
    A cult is only recognized when their beliefs lead them to do something that's practically stupid.
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    17 Jun '18 17:17
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    A cult is only recognized when their beliefs lead them to do something that's practically stupid.
    I am more of the opinion is that they start following a person and place him/her as the single source of truth.
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    17 Jun '18 17:25
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    In like manner, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefastness and sobriety; not with braided hair, and gold or pearls or costly raiment; but (which becometh women professing godliness) through good works. Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection. But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to [b]be in quietness. (1 Timothy 2:9-12 ASV)[/b]
    Are you telling Suzianne to be quiet??

    Lol, this should be good.
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    17 Jun '18 17:25
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I am more of the opinion is that they start following a person and place him/her as the single source of truth.
    Following someone other than Jesus Christ. would be more accurate
    Sonship has placed Witness Lee on a pedestal. that is a cult
    JWs have done the same with Charles Russel
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    17 Jun '18 17:26
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Are you telling Suzianne to be quiet??

    Lol, this should be good.
    Me? I quoted Paul.
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    17 Jun '18 17:29
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Me? I quoted Paul.
    Even better, lol.

    Think she'll comply??
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    17 Jun '18 17:34
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Following someone other than Jesus Christ. would be more accurate
    Sonship has placed Witness Lee on a pedestal. that is a cult
    JWs have done the same with Charles Russel
    If they put them above Christ and scripture I’d agree with you.
  10. PenTesting
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    17 Jun '18 17:55
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Even better, lol.

    Think she'll comply??
    She believes Paul was sent by God to preach.
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    17 Jun '18 18:30
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Without pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
    You need to ask not me but those who view the Catholic Church as a "Satanic" cult.
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    17 Jun '18 18:35
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    Denominational tribalism.
    Ding, Ding. I think we have a winner here ! 😀
  13. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    17 Jun '18 20:33
    Catholics believe Mary lived a completely sinless life - Protestants disagree
    Catholics believe Mary is part of the Godhead - Protestants disagree
    Catholics believe Christ's work on the cross was insufficient and further efforts on our part are necessary for salvation - Protestants disagree
    Catholics believe we should pray to Mary and the Saints - Protestants disagree
    Catholics believe priests have the power to forgive sin - Protestants disagree

    And on and on. Many Protestants believe Catholicism is the work of Satan and the Roman Catholic Church is the "whore of Babylon" spoken about in Revelation.
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    18 Jun '18 00:56
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The reason is simple. It the same reason why I get bashed here every day. Protestant Christians have a deep down hatred for anyone who speaks of good works and righteousness or following the commandments of Christ. Catholics are in that category. To be saved according to them you have to profess faith alone. Even speaking of works means you are insulting Christ ... apparently.
    “To be saved according to them you have to profess faith alone. ”

    I don’t know where you get your information but good works were essential for salvation in my Catholic boyhood indoctrination. A difference might be that we were taught it was achievable for all of us.
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    18 Jun '18 01:31
    Originally posted by @fmf
    You need to ask not me but those who view the Catholic Church as a "Satanic" cult.
    And exactly who are these people?

    Apparently, you know of some. "Enlighten" us.
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