Originally posted by kd2aczMe. I thought about stuff, and came to decisions. I know you tried to touch all the bases, but you missed the very first one.
For many, one's moral compass is their faith. For others a moral compass is values that are passed down from parents, grandparents, etc. (which may be faith based or not). Still others, a moral compass is more culturally based, or what is based on the given law were one lives. What do you claim to be your moral compass, is it any of the above or something else?
If you wake up on a deserted island with amnesia, how would you carry yourself?
Originally posted by josephwWhy is your Creator's code of morality 'objective'? What gives it this particular intrinsic quality?
Morality, by definition, is a code of conduct or behavior, and is subjective on a purely human level.
Unless one adheres to an objective code of morality as defined by the Creator. Then, all bets are off.
Originally posted by RJHindsFirst of all, one of the cornerstones of our Constitution is the separation of church and state. Neither has any business getting in the way of the other. God doesn't belong in our government, nor in our schools. God belongs in church and/or at home. Making a belief in God and Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit the moral compass of your life is all well and good, but you cannot force this down everyone's throat. The Inquisition was a bad idea, you know.
I agree. The strong effort made by the atheists to push God out of our government and our schools has made the moral behavior of our citizens very bad. This nation is headed for the garbage heap unless strong efforts are made to bring God back into the lives of the people. Any good moral compass must include a belief in God and His Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Let everyone live their lives. God will sort them out at Judgement.
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Originally posted by SuzianneHow do you think God will 'sort out' the following two types of people in practical terms at Judgement:
First of all, one of the cornerstones of our Constitution is the separation of church and state. Neither has any business getting in the way of the other. God doesn't belong in our government, nor in our schools. God belongs in church and/or at home. Making a belief in God and Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit the moral compass of your life is a bad idea, you know.
Let everyone live their lives. God will sort them out at Judgement.
1 The child raping, genocidal maniac.
2 The person who lives his/her life according to most of what you would regard as moral behaviour, except for the belief in your particular version of God.
Would there be any qualitative difference in their fates?
Originally posted by Rank outsiderIt's not up to me. I'm human, I make mistakes.
How do you think God will 'sort out' the following two types of people in practical terms at Judgement:
1 The child raping, genocidal maniac.
2 The person who lives his/her life according to most of what you would regard as moral behaviour, except for the belief in your particular version of God.
Would there be any qualitative difference in their fates?
God has said, "Vengeance is mine" and Jesus said, "Judge not".
I'm good with that most of the time.
For the times I'm not, see sentence #2.
Originally posted by SuzianneIs there anything in the Bible that suggests that their fates will be different?
It's not up to me. I'm human, I make mistakes.
God has said, "Vengeance is mine" and Jesus said, "Judge not".
I'm good with that most of the time.
For the times I'm not, see sentence #2.
If not, does that not concern you?
If God has 'vengeance' planned for both, do you not think it should be proportionately applied?
Isn't proportionality in punishment not morally necessary?
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Originally posted by SuzianneI was just stating my opinion and I have no intention of forcing it down everyone's throat, my sweet Suzianne. 😏
First of all, one of the cornerstones of our Constitution is the separation of church and state. Neither has any business getting in the way of the other. God doesn't belong in our government, nor in our schools. God belongs in church and/or at home. Making a belief in God and Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit the moral compass of your life is a bad idea, you know.
Let everyone live their lives. God will sort them out at Judgement.
HalleluYah !!!
Originally posted by Rank outsider/shrug
Is there anything in the Bible that suggests that their fates will be different?
If not, does that not concern you?
If God has 'vengeance' planned for both, do you not think it should be proportionately applied?
Isn't proportionality in punishment not morally necessary?
Sin is sin.
But Jesus did hint that intention goes a long way.
Originally posted by SuzianneJudge not?
It's not up to me. I'm human, I make mistakes.
God has said, "Vengeance is mine" and Jesus said, "Judge not".
I'm good with that most of the time.
For the times I'm not, see sentence #2.
My dear Suzianne, I think you forgot to read "the rest of the story", as Paul Harvey would say.
Maybe the following link will provide that knowledge and understanding better than I could explain it to you.
http://www.capalert.com/judgenot.htm
Originally posted by apathistDropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved many more lives than they cost.
I'm really not a big fan of the constitution. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, ain't America great?
At what point do we stop letting dead people tell us how to think.
Truman had all the intelligence, including how many millions of Japanese died defending Iwo Jima, Saipan and Okinawa, to tell him that an invasion of the Japanese mainland would have cost tens of millions of Japanese lives, many of them civilians.
30 million vs. 330,000. You make the decision.