Originally posted by no1marauderI said that Bynum was posting Howard like numbers RIGHT BEFORE his injury. If you look at the facts, Bynum's numbers were increasing each month until he had that injury. In January, he averaged 17.3 ppg 12.2 rb 2.3 blk .700 fg .714 ft on 29.5 MINS. Howard has averaged 20.9 ppg 14.3 rb 2.19 blk .599 fg .592 ft on 38.1 MINS. So yes they were Howard like numbers.
Laker fans are sure delusional; Bynum was averaging 13.2 PPG and 10.1 RPG. Those are hardly "Howard like numbers"; the latter is averaging 20.9 PPG and 14.3 RPG.
Originally posted by no1marauderIt was a steal just like acquiring Trevor Ariza and Derek Fisher were steals. Which thief do you think should get GM of the Year, Mitch Kupchak or Danny Ainge?
The Celtics gave up a fine young big man in Jefferson and several other decent players to land KG. The Lakers gave up nothing of any value for Gasol. Hence, the "steal" part.
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeSo for 6 GAMES, he was putting up numbers only somewhat inferior to what Howard has been averaging over 80. Impressive. The combined record of those 6 opponents at the time was 88-122 (though there was a win over the Hornets), so it wasn't like it was top competition. It also helps to "cherry pick" the games; on December 30, Bynum had only 8 points and a mere 2 rebounds against the Celts in a 110-91 Boston blowout (in LA, too).
I said that Bynum was posting Howard like numbers RIGHT BEFORE his injury. If you look at the facts, Bynum's numbers were increasing each month until he had that injury. In January, he averaged 17.3 ppg 12.2 rb 2.3 blk .700 fg .714 ft on 29.5 MINS. Howard has averaged 20.9 ppg 14.3 rb 2.19 blk .599 fg .592 ft on 38.1 MINS. So yes they were Howard like numbers.
Originally posted by no1marauderAre you retarded or something? My whole point was that Bynum's numbers increased as the season went on and peaked close to Howard's level. Just imagine if he had been healthy the whole season. I don't cherry pick at all, I have already admitted earlier in this thread that Kendrick Perkins outplayed Bynum this season. Apparently you don't know how to read... Bynum was an absolute beast before he went down and if you don't know about it then you aren't a true nba fan.
So for 6 GAMES, he was putting up numbers only somewhat inferior to what Howard has been averaging over 80. Impressive. The combined record of those 6 opponents at the time was 88-122 (though there was a win over the Hornets), so it wasn't like it was top competition. It also helps to "cherry pick" the games; on December 30, Bynum had only 8 points and a mere 2 rebounds against the Celts in a 110-91 Boston blowout (in LA, too).
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeYeah, 8 points and 2 rebounds in a game a couple of weeks before his injury is sure "beast like".
Are you retarded or something? My whole point was that Bynum's numbers increased as the season went on and peaked close to Howard's level. Just imagine if he had been healthy the whole season. I don't cherry pick at all, I have already admitted earlier in this thread that Kendrick Perkins outplayed Bynum this season. Apparently you don't know how to ...[text shortened]... e beast before he went down and if you don't know about it then you aren't a true nba fan.
If he hadn't got injured, the Lakers wouldn't have picked up Gasol and would be a worse team. Bynum's numbers would be about the same as they were before his injury (he would have had to play better than the below average competition he and the Lakers played in that 6 game stretch in January). Comparing him to Howard is laughable.
It seems people in this thread sure hate to be corrected by the facts.
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeIt's a joke to compare what the Celts had to give up to get Garnett to what the Lakers gave up (virtually nothing) to get Gasol and the other players you mention. Al Jefferson is a better big man than the "beast like" Bynum.
It was a steal just like acquiring Trevor Ariza and Derek Fisher were steals. Which thief do you think should get GM of the Year, Mitch Kupchak or Danny Ainge?
Originally posted by no1marauderIf Bynum hadn't gotten injured, he would probably lead the league in FG%, the Lakers might have more wins than the Celtics, the Laker defense would be spectacular, and they still might have picked up Gasol because Memphis wanted Kwame's contract more than anything. Comparing Bynum to Howard isn't laughable at all, they are both young and this was Drew's break out season. He is going to be among the top big men for a long time. Just wait until he is healthy again.
Yeah, 8 points and 2 rebounds in a game a couple of weeks before his injury is sure "beast like".
If he hadn't got injured, the Lakers wouldn't have picked up Gasol and would be a worse team. Bynum's numbers would be about the same as they were before his injury (he would have had to play better than the below average competition he and the ...[text shortened]... able.
It seems people in this thread sure hate to be corrected by the facts.
Originally posted by no1marauderDoes that mean that Mitch Kupchak is a better GM than Ainge? I mean he gave up nothing (Mo Evans, Marc Gasol, Crit, 1st round picks) for three quality players. And yes, I will agree with you that Smush, Kwame, and Cook are nothing.
It's a joke to compare what the Celts had to give up to get Garnett to what the Lakers gave up (virtually nothing) to get Gasol and the other players you mention. Al Jefferson is a better big man than the "beast like" Bynum.
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeI means the Memphis GM is a moron.
Does that mean that Mitch Kupchak is a better GM than Ainge? I mean he gave up nothing (Mo Evans, Marc Gasol, Crit, 1st round picks) for three quality players. And yes, I will agree with you that Smush, Kwame, and Cook are nothing.
Ainge made a good deal; he knew he was giving up a great talent in Jefferson and a few other good players, but he also knew that KG was bringing something beyond his on court play. The results speak for themselves.
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeThanks for the laugh. With Bynum, the Lakers were 25-11; without him, they've been 31-14. That's a .694 winning percentage v. a .689 one. Believing that the Lakers had a chance to go 42-4 the rest of season if only Bynum hadn't got hurt proves how delusional the Laker fans in this thread are.
If Bynum hadn't gotten injured, he would probably lead the league in FG%, the Lakers might have more wins than the Celtics, the Laker defense would be spectacular, and they still might have picked up Gasol because Memphis wanted Kwame's contract more than anything. Comparing Bynum to Howard isn't laughable at all, they are both young and this was Drew' ...[text shortened]... is going to be among the top big men for a long time. Just wait until he is healthy again.
Originally posted by no1marauderSeeing as that most of the Laker loses during the 2nd half of the season have been on nights when the Lakers have been center-less, then yes, I do stand by my argument.
Thanks for the laugh. With Bynum, the Lakers were 25-11; without him, they've been 31-14. That's a .694 winning percentage v. a .689 one. Believing that the Lakers had a chance to go 42-4 the rest of season if only Bynum hadn't got hurt proves how delusional the Laker fans in this thread are.
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Originally posted by no1marauderUh they gave up a very talented prospect in Javaris Crittendon and 2 first round picks plus the rights to Marc Gasol, Pau's younger brother. That doesn't sound like nothing to me. You can build an entire team around all of that.
The Celtics gave up a fine young big man in Jefferson and several other decent players to land KG. The Lakers gave up nothing of any value for Gasol. Hence, the "steal" part.