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    18 Dec '09 17:31
    Originally posted by trev33
    walcott is wasteful and prone to injury, but the other two have their moments. for me lennon is the better of the 3, he has improved quite a bit in the last couple of years. trouble is that england don't have a lot of players who can take on a beat a players, all 3 of them can do so...
    They all looked wasteful to me, but if there's no one better in England, then Lennon might do. Take Arshavin, give him the citizenship, I'd love to see how he'd do in WC.
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    18 Dec '09 17:42
    Originally posted by infomast
    They all looked wasteful to me, but if there's no one better in England, then Lennon might do. Take Arshavin, give him the citizenship, I'd love to see how he'd do in WC.
    Arshavin is overrated.
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    18 Dec '09 18:18
    Originally posted by phil3000
    James/Green/Foster
    Ferdinand / G Johnson /Terry /Wes Brown /Cahill /Upson
    Carrick / A Cole / Owen Hargreaves (if fit )
    Barry /Milner /J Cole /Lampard /Gerrard /Walcott
    Rooney /Defoe /Owen /Bent /Heskey
    how can you take foster when he's third choice at utd?

    james/green/robinson
    ferdinand/johnson/terry/cole/brown/upson/hmm can't think. is there anyone who can play both left and centre back?
    lampard/gerrard/cole/hargreaves/beckham/lennon/barry/wright phillips
    rooney/defoe/heskey/agbonlahor/owen
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    18 Dec '09 18:33
    Originally posted by trev33
    how can you take foster when he's third choice at utd?

    james/green/robinson
    ferdinand/johnson/terry/cole/brown/upson/hmm can't think. is there anyone who can play both left and centre back?
    lampard/gerrard/cole/hargreaves/beckham/lennon/barry/wright phillips
    rooney/defoe/heskey/agbonlahor/owen
    That's only 22 !!
    To be honest ,between your squad and my squad [which will probably be about right ] i fear the worst !!! :'(:'(:'(
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    18 Dec '09 18:36
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Arshavin is overrated.
    Disagree. You can't overrate a talent.
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    18 Dec '09 18:401 edit
    Originally posted by phil3000
    That's only 22 !!
    To be honest ,between your squad and my squad [which will probably be about right ] i fear the worst !!! :'(:'(:'(
    i know i need another defender but can't think of anyone who can play left back well enough if cole gets injured... and can play in the centre if needed. just like wes brown.

    anyone?

    not that i want england to do well or anything but i really don't rate bent and c. cole as good enough to play at international level.

    the problem i see with your squad is width...
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    18 Dec '09 18:49
    Originally posted by trev33
    how can you take foster when he's third choice at utd?

    james/green/robinson
    ferdinand/johnson/terry/cole/brown/upson/hmm can't think. is there anyone who can play both left and centre back?
    lampard/gerrard/cole/hargreaves/beckham/lennon/barry/wright phillips
    rooney/defoe/heskey/agbonlahor/owen
    Take Crouch instead of Owen - give your team some chance
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    18 Dec '09 18:58
    Originally posted by infomast
    Take Crouch instead of Owen - give your team some chance
    i'd pick myself before taking crouch.
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    18 Dec '09 19:07
    Originally posted by infomast
    Take Crouch instead of Owen - give your team some chance
    Crouch is like "Bambi" on ice !!
    Owen still has the speed and instinct .
    If you play Crouch, England will revert to the long ball .Playing the long ball at international level you will just give the ball away !!
    If you play Owen ,you have to get it to his feet ..
    If England are in trouble with 10 or 15 minutes to go then ,you could bring Crouch on and play the long ball..
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    18 Dec '09 19:16
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Crouch is like "Bambi" on ice !!
    Owen still has the speed and instinct .
    If you play Crouch, England will revert to the long ball .Playing the long ball at international level you will just give the ball away !!
    If you play Owen ,you have to get it to his feet ..
    If England are in trouble with 10 or 15 minutes to go then ,you could bring Crouch on and play the long ball..
    Actually , i think i will drop Heskey from my 23 and put Crouch in instead ..
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    18 Dec '09 19:43
    Just been reading the last few posts from Phil and Trev...
    This is one of the things I love about football...I can't believe how opinions can vary so much!
    I agree that Lennon/W-P/ and Walcott are all similar - the most unproductive being W-P.
    I'd only take Milner 'cos of his versatility, he's not that skillful.

    My 23 would be:

    James/Robinson (why bother taking a 3rd keeper to warm the bench?)
    Terry/Upson/A.Cole/Johnson/Brown/Jagielka (if fit)/Bridge. (no room for Ferdinand - he's a waste of space)
    Gerrard/Lampard/Barry/Carrick/Milner/Lennon/Beckham/Hargreaves (if fit)
    Rooney/Heskey/Crouch/Defoe/Walcott/Owen.

    I await the expected onslaught!!!
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    18 Dec '09 20:42
    Originally posted by blade68
    Just been reading the last few posts from Phil and Trev...
    This is one of the things I love about football...I can't believe how opinions can vary so much!
    I agree that Lennon/W-P/ and Walcott are all similar - the most unproductive being W-P.
    I'd only take Milner 'cos of his versatility, he's not that skillful.

    My 23 would be:

    James/Robinson (why b ...[text shortened]... ves (if fit)
    Rooney/Heskey/Crouch/Defoe/Walcott/Owen.

    I await the expected onslaught!!!
    you need 3 goalkeepers in case one gets injured or send off in a match. unless you want to go into a key game late in the tournament with no sub goalkeeper.
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    18 Dec '09 21:23
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Crouch is like "Bambi" on ice !!
    Owen still has the speed and instinct .
    If you play Crouch, England will revert to the long ball .Playing the long ball at international level you will just give the ball away !!
    If you play Owen ,you have to get it to his feet ..
    If England are in trouble with 10 or 15 minutes to go then ,you could bring Crouch on and play the long ball..
    Crouch is a source of danger on every cross or whenever the ball is near the opponents goal. Tottenham is in 5th place now. Owen is only good for an occasional tap in.
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    18 Dec '09 22:02
    Originally posted by infomast
    Crouch is a source of danger on every cross or whenever the ball is near the opponents goal. Tottenham is in 5th place now. Owen is only good for an occasional tap in.
    crouch is not a player who you can play the long ball to, he's not strong and he can't head the ball. what's the point in being that tall if you can't use it? heskey is much better at that. plus he's not a player who you're going to bring on with 20 mins to go in need of a goal, that would be goalscorers like owen and defoe.
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    18 Dec '09 22:36
    Originally posted by phil3000
    World class players will mop up his crosses untill the cow's come home !!
    So why haven't they been doing it for the past 14 odd years?

    The number of goals scored during United's treble winning season of 99, which Beckham got an assist for was incredible. He was also generally the top assist getter in the Premiership during his years there.

    Your bias is not founded on the truth.

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