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@shallow-blue said
No, it's not. It doesn't have to. It's already starving it to death with the assistance and full approval of both the USA and PutinoSSR.
It's a matter of pride for Israeli Jews to live in ancient Israel and Judea. It will happen someday.


@athousandyoung said
Unlike other indications and predictions I’ve seen, this Caspian Report suggests Russia is using a restrained “handbrake” invasion without using their trademark heavy artillery to minimize the damage done to the country:

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I don’t know who or what is on the other side of that YouTube symbol but they or it is full of ๐Ÿ’ฉPutin is bombing the crap out of civilian areas because he does not have anything like the numbers to take and hold Ukraine on the ground.
Have you actually seen any coverage of what’s happening there?
Oh and the situation in Ukraine has absolutely no correlation to what’s happening in Palestine / Israel according to your logic Kyiv could just as easily lay claim to Russia but they are two distinct sovereign nations with their own history and national identity.


@kevcvs57
One thing very obvious: The bombing of civilians is called 'war crimes' and will be pursued if we win and Putin gets kicked out of office, maybe he could even be seen in court in the Hauge.


@shavixmir said
Nobody, except Americans, claim that the US is a force for good.
I am American and I don't think my government is a force for good. Once again, there are no white hats.


@sonhouse said
@kevcvs57
One thing very obvious: The bombing of civilians is called 'war crimes' and will be pursued if we win and Putin gets kicked out of office, maybe he could even be seen in court in the Hauge.
It would have to be proven the bombing of civilians was intentional.
And even then, Russia would need to lose the war, Putin would have to be ousted and then the Hague could put him on trial.

It’s very difficult to get heads of state (former or not) on trial, when their regimes continue.
How many Israeli or US officials have been dragged to the Hague?


@shavixmir said
It would have to be proven the bombing of civilians was intentional.
And even then, Russia would need to lose the war, Putin would have to be ousted and then the Hague could put him on trial.

It’s very difficult to get heads of state (former or not) on trial, when their regimes continue.
How many Israeli or US officials have been dragged to the Hague?
I believe Putin could be tried in absentia. Good luck convincing the court that your finger slipped on the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas button.
The Hague is there to establish what is acceptable as civilised behaviour during conflict more than an organ that dispenses justice. Blair and Bush junior should have ended up in The Hague for the 2nd Iraq war.
The sanctions on Russia should remain in place until Putin is ousted and a responsive democracy is put in his place. And NATO must reinforce its eastern flank to the point that would enable it to repel any Russian military response to those sanctions.


@kevcvs57 said
I believe Putin could be tried in absentia. Good luck convincing the court that your finger slipped on the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas button.
The Hague is there to establish what is acceptable as civilised behaviour during conflict more than an organ that dispenses justice. Blair and Bush junior should have ended up in The Hague for the 2nd Iraq war.
The sanc ...[text shortened]... n flank to the point that would enable it to repel any Russian military response to those sanctions.
"The sanctions on Russia should remain in place until Putin is ousted and a responsive democracy is put in his place."

So you are claiming this is about democracy? That is the same lame propaganda that I heard about why we invaded Iraq, that we were spreading democracy. It was an unprovoked invasion of Iraq too. Don't forget that. Same thing with the NATO led invasion of Libya. Unprovoked.

Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, it is a kingdom. Should we slap sanctions on Saudi Arabia until a responsive democracy is put in MBS's place?


On Wednesday, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, claimed that Moscow has uncovered evidence of a U.S.-backed bioweapons program in Ukraine that includes the development of plague and anthrax.

“Recently found documents show that components of biological weapons were made in Ukraine’s laboratories, with funding from [the U.S. Department of Defense], in direct proximity to Russia,” a tweet from the U.K.’s Russian Embassy stated.

https://www.westernjournal.com/russias-startling-allegation-yet-directly-implicates-usa/

So there you have it, allegations of WMDs in Ukraine. Now they have every right to invade and occupy the country, even if the WMDs are not there.

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@metal-brain said
"The sanctions on Russia should remain in place until Putin is ousted and a responsive democracy is put in his place."

So you are claiming this is about democracy? That is the same lame propaganda that I heard about why we invaded Iraq, that we were spreading democracy. It was an unprovoked invasion of Iraq too. Don't forget that. Same thing with the NATO led invasion ...[text shortened]... ingdom. Should we slap sanctions on Saudi Arabia until a responsive democracy is put in MBS's place?
Yes you clown this is about democracy and sovereignty. Putin us trying to distinguish democracy in Ukraine to bring it in line with authoritarian rule in Russia.

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@metal-brain said
On Wednesday, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, claimed that Moscow has uncovered evidence of a U.S.-backed bioweapons program in Ukraine that includes the development of plague and anthrax.

“Recently found documents show that components of biological weapons were made in Ukraine’s laboratories, with funding from [the U.S. Department of D ...[text shortened]... Now they have every right to invade and occupy the country, even if the WMDs are not there.

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Hey idiot we do not need to spread democracy to Ukraine as they already have democracy, its Putin that is using his tanks and planes to stifle democracy and put a puppet fascist pro Kremlin regime in Ukraine.
That’s why the sanctions and military support must remain until the Putin regime is gone or brought to its fascist knees.

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@kevcvs57 said
I believe Putin could be tried in absentia. Good luck convincing the court that your finger slipped on the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas button.
The Hague is there to establish what is acceptable as civilised behaviour during conflict more than an organ that dispenses justice. Blair and Bush junior should have ended up in The Hague for the 2nd Iraq war.
The sanc ...[text shortened]... n flank to the point that would enable it to repel any Russian military response to those sanctions.
The West committing itself to a policy of regime change in Russia even if this crisis reaches a negotiated settlement would be shockingly reckless besides being obviously hypocritical.

And linking this to a massing of military assets near the Russian border seems like a recipe for WWIII.


@kevcvs57 said
Hey idiot we do not need to spread democracy to Ukraine as they already have democracy, its Putin that is using his tanks and planes to stifle democracy and put a puppet fascist pro Kremlin regime in Ukraine.
That’s why the sanctions and military support must remain until the Putin regime is gone or brought to its fascist knees.
Oh. So now you want regime change too.

Uhuh.


@no1marauder said
The West
Putin's shock troops just bombed a children's hospital.

You still pretend this is all Europe's fault.

You, and your boy Putin, are deeply, deeply disgusting.

You are a child murderer.


From the BBC, although I bolded parts which are interesting:

As Ukraine enters its 17th day under Russian invasion, Nato has said that it will be sending troops to Norway on Monday 14 March.

Some 30,000 troops, 200 aircraft and 50 vessels from 27 nations are expected to take part in the Cold Response 2022 exercise, the largest exercise involving Nato troops this year.

Starting on 14 March, the manoeuvres will enable western nations to hone their combat skills in Norway's cold climate, including in the Arctic, on the ground, at sea and in the skies.

The exercise will be held a few hundred kilometres from the Russian border. While it was planned long before Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, it now has added significance because of the war.

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@no1marauder said
The West committing itself to a policy of regime change in Russia even if this crisis reaches a negotiated settlement would be shockingly reckless besides being obviously hypocritical.

And linking this to a massing of military assets near the Russian border seems like a recipe for WWIII.
Is calling for a world leader to step down really such a shocking event? A number of countries called for Assad to step down; do you believe Merkel was wrong for saying Assad should relinquish power? How about when France or the UK said the same?

Why was it okay to call for Assad to step down but not okay for Putin? Why was it okay to okay to call for Maduro's resignation?