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@athousandyoung said
It's a matter of pride for Israeli Jews to live in ancient Israel and Judea. It will happen someday.
Are you taking that for a bad or a good thing?

Because I don't like the Palestinian holocaust very much.

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@sonhouse said
@kevcvs57
One thing very obvious: The bombing of civilians is called 'war crimes' and will be pursued if we win and Putin gets kicked out of office, maybe he could even be seen in court in the Hauge.
"The Hague", and thank you very much, but we don't want him here. Just put his head on a spike and be done with it.

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@shavixmir said
It would have to be proven the bombing of civilians was intentional.
Nobody accidentally bombs a children's hospital, child murderer.

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@shallow-blue said
Nobody accidentally bombs a children's hospital, child murderer.
Not to go all "whataboutism" but: https://www.msf.org/kunduz-hospital-attack-depth

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@shallow-blue said
Are you taking that for a bad or a good thing?

Because I don't like the Palestinian holocaust very much.
Neither. Simply a prediction.

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@no1marauder said
Not to go all "whataboutism" but: https://www.msf.org/kunduz-hospital-attack-depth
It’s the worst kind of whataboutism it’s using one atrocity to justify or nullify criticism of another atrocity.
You’d need to ask your Air Force why they would do such a thing but I’m pretty sure there where no Ukrainian’s involved. Should Ukrainians be left to the tender mercies of Russian air power in a bid to salve our consciouses regarding Afghanistan. This is happening right now No1, for the life of me I do not understand your callous indifference. I’m also sure the Kunduz attack was roundly criticised at home and abroad at the time and since so I’m not sure what your point is.
BTW you really should have a quick look at Russian atrocities in Afghanistan, just for balance. Again just like Ukraine, Afghanistan was no threat to Russia and no attack had been launched on Russia from Afghanistan.

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@kevcvs57 said
It’s the worst kind of whataboutism it’s using one atrocity to justify or nullify criticism of another atrocity.
You’d need to ask your Air Force why they would do such a thing but I’m pretty sure there where no Ukrainian’s involved. Should Ukrainians be left to the tender mercies of Russian air power in a bid to salve our consciouses regarding Afghanistan. This is happenin ...[text shortened]... ine, Afghanistan was no threat to Russia and no attack had been launched on Russia from Afghanistan.
You do realize that NATO occupied Afghanistan for 20 years, right?

War is almost always filled with atrocities, the question now is how this particular war can be ended (since any chance to avert it was squandered). You have no ideas except the pipe dreams that Putin will be overthrown by an outraged Russian public and/or that the Ukraine can militarily defeat Russia.

To the extent that your opinions are prevalent in the West (and they seem to be) and accepted by Ukrainian leadership, they will prolong the war and increase the suffering, misery and death.

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@shallow-blue said
Are you taking that for a bad or a good thing?

Because I don't like the Palestinian holocaust very much.
The Orthodox world - Greece and Russia want Constantinople back too. But Turkey is being defended by NATO atm so...

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@Shallow-Blue
Works for me🙂 Be sure to post his head on a stick to the United Nations assembly as an example of what happens to dictators.

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@no1marauder said
Not to go all "whataboutism" but:
"I'm not a racist, but..."

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@athousandyoung said
The Orthodox world - Greece and Russia want Constantinople back too. But Turkey is being defended by NATO atm so...

[youtube Istanbul not Constantinople]vsQrKZcYtqg[/youtube]
There is also historic pressure for Chicanos to reclaim the American Southwest, but again, they're opposing the USA and NATO, so that's not going to happen soon.

http://ringmar.net/irhistorynew/index.php/welcome/north-america-2/7-1-the-maya/7-2-the-aztecs/aztlan-and-the-chicano-movement/

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@kevcvs57 said - BTW you really should have a quick look at Russian atrocities in Afghanistan, just for balance. Again just like Ukraine, Afghanistan was no threat to Russia and no attack had been launched on Russia from Afghanistan.
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1.) Was Afghanistan a threat to the USA?? Just askin'
2.) And look, too, at atrocities that the US committed while warring in Afghanistan.
I wish a had a finner every time US Bombers took out a wedding party.

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@kevcvs57 said
It’s the worst kind of whataboutism it’s using one atrocity to justify or nullify criticism of another atrocity.
You’d need to ask your Air Force why they would do such a thing but I’m pretty sure there where no Ukrainian’s involved. Should Ukrainians be left to the tender mercies of Russian air power in a bid to salve our consciouses regarding Afghanistan. This is happenin ...[text shortened]... ine, Afghanistan was no threat to Russia and no attack had been launched on Russia from Afghanistan.
Nope. It is about holding the same standard to every nation. You are endorsing a double standard and that is why you complaining about whataboutism. You think that it is acceptable for the USA and NATO to commit war crimes but unacceptable for Russia to commit war crimes. Same thing with unprovoked invasions.

Your opinion has been influenced by the corporate news media sources you have been listening to. Your consent for sending weapons to Ukraine has been manufactured and you are too naive to realize it. If you grew up in NAZI Germany you would be talking about how it is good that Germany invaded Poland. You respond well to propaganda even when it is completely contradictory.

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@AThousandYoung
Russia wants Alaska back too so we better send a few hundred thousand troops up there too.

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@no1marauder said
You do realize that NATO occupied Afghanistan for 20 years, right?

War is almost always filled with atrocities, the question now is how this particular war can be ended (since any chance to avert it was squandered). You have no ideas except the pipe dreams that Putin will be overthrown by an outraged Russian public and/or that the Ukraine can militarily defeat Russia. ...[text shortened]... ted by Ukrainian leadership, they will prolong the war and increase the suffering, misery and death.
It will not end, it will be like Afghanistan the Russians will eventually control what’s left of the cities and the Ukrainian insurgency will slip backwards and forwards across its porous border ( the way that the Taliban used the border of Pakistan ) with the latest handheld weaponry that NATO can supply. It will eventually end the way that all three major Afghan incursions ended for Great Britain, Russia and the US ( oops sorry I meant NATO 😉 ) with the invader slinking off or leaving overnight.
Please explain how the war could have been avoided and Ukrainian sovereignty preserved.