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@shavixmir said
Any country invading another is wrong.
unless its allowing any and everyone to invade the US


@shavixmir said
Suck my anus you right-wing anus sucker.

I did ask for no such thing.
You're just a right-wing apologist, a NATO rimmer, if you will. You'll accept everything and anything they say.

My opinion on the matter still stands: If NATO keeps expanding and encircling Russia, this is what you'll get.
And that does not mean I agree with Putin. It does not mean I condone a ...[text shortened]... untry it bloody well likes.

There is something seriously wrong with you. Get some FFing therapy.
Hey everyone look at shavmixler...he uses bad words...he da man!

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This just came in over the FOX scroll line:
RUSSIAN TROOPS CAPTURE CHERNOBYL NUCLEAR PLANT

hE hum,,, this is not exactly something to brag about, Putin 🤔


@mott-the-hoople said
unless its allowing any and everyone to invade the US
Who the hell is invading the US?

Do you really think anyone wants to be anywhere near you?


@mott-the-hoople said
Hey everyone look at shavmixler...he uses bad words...he da man!
Yes. I am da man.
But that's got nothing to do with my use of language.
It's just because I am sex on legs.

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Is there any reason the US doesn’t send a carrier battle group to the Baltic?

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https://www.quora.com/[WORD TOO LONG]

Answer by Dima Votobiev, former Propaganda Executive at Russia

Short answer: the size of Ukraine.

Long answer:

Our strategic thinking is shaped by an aversion to big challengers around the European part of Russia. The Brits must understand this very well. But unlike them, we don’t have the white cliffs of Dover. We had to find other solutions.

Patchwork of safety

When big continental players appeared in our neighborhood—first with formation of the German empire, and later independent Poland of 1918–39—this caused a heightened sense of geopolitical paranoia. Which ultimately dragged us into two world wars, and…

True, the Baltic countries being inside NATO are an irritant, too. But their size and strategic exposure make them almost tactical targets for our military. As for Ukraine, its strategic depth and size far exceed what a score of motorized brigades and a few nuclear payloads can realistically achieve.

As long as President Putin holds the Kremlin, he’s going to do what he can to keep Ukraine on their toes—a weak, corrupt, divided nation in conflict with itself.



(long post, worth examining in full)

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@athousandyoung said
https://www.quora.com/[WORD TOO LONG]

Answer by Dima Votobiev, former Propaganda Executive at Russia

Short answer: the size of Ukraine.

Long answer:

Our strategic thinking is shaped by an aversion to big challengers around ...[text shortened]... orrupt, divided nation in conflict with itself.



(long post, worth examining in full)
It’s got very little to do with Ukraine being a strategic threat to Russia per se and a lot to do with Ukraine as a neighbouring Slavic nation being democratic and potentially economically successful if it integrates into the EU being a political threat to Putin’s grip on Russia.

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@athousandyoung said
Is there any reason the US doesn’t send a carrier battle group to the Baltic?
If only we had invested more in F-35's then we'd have avoided the whole sitch.

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@wildgrass said
If only we had invested more in F-35's then we'd have avoided the whole sitch.
No, we should have hardened our internet lines against hackers. That would stop Russia!

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@athousandyoung said
No, we should have hardened our internet lines against hackers. That would stop Russia!
Good point (although what's a "hard" internet line?). Cybersecurity and counter-offensive hacking actually would do a lot lot more than jets.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/23/russia-hacking-malware-cyberattack-virus-ukraine

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@wildgrass said
Good point (although what's a "hard" internet line?). Cybersecurity and counter-offensive hacking actually would do a lot lot more than jets.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/23/russia-hacking-malware-cyberattack-virus-ukraine
If you don't know what hardening one's lines of communication means you should stop posting so much about cybersecurity because you're obviously clueless.

https://www.beyondtrust.com/resources/glossary/systems-hardening
https://packetpushers.net/more-thoughts-on-hardening-internet-facing-applications/?doing_wp_cron=1645754196.8272540569305419921875

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@athousandyoung said
If you don't know what hardening one's lines of communication means you should stop posting so much about cybersecurity because you're obviously clueless.

https://www.beyondtrust.com/resources/glossary/systems-hardening
https://packetpushers.net/more-thoughts-on-hardening-internet-facing-applications/?doing_wp_cron=1645754196.8272540569305419921875
he knows, just didnt have a rebuttal

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@AThousandYoung
All well and good but it is not just the US aligned against Russia. Maybe you heard of that hidden organization called NATO?
Do you seriously think the US would go it alone against Russia when we have allies?

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@athousandyoung said
Is there any reason the US doesn’t send a carrier battle group to the Baltic?
Is there any reason the US should? Also:

"As maritime operating environments go, the Baltic Sea has always been a challenging one. During the winter, almost half of it freezes, restricting movement. And though it covers some 21,700 square kilometers, the sea’s most strategically important portion — stretching from the Kattegat Strait near Denmark to the Gulf of Riga near Estonia and Latvia — is little wider than 200 km, well within the range of most modern anti-ship missiles. That makes it difficult for any surface ship, whether transport or warship, to transit without coming under threat of missile attack. At the same time, the highly variable salinities of the waters themselves complicate anti-submarine warfare, making submarine attacks harder to prevent, despite the sea’s relatively shallow average depth.

Russia’s Stronghold
No doubt, Russia has sought to capitalize on the strategic location of Kaliningrad Oblast. Along its coast, Russia has deployed at least one Bal mobile coastal defense battery and one K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defense battery. Given that the former is normally equipped with 32 Kh-35 (SS-N-25) anti-ship missiles and the latter with eight 3M54 Kalibr (SS-N-27) anti-ship missiles, together they could launch salvos of 40 missiles at NATO forces sailing across the Baltic Sea. Meanwhile, Russia has stationed in Kaliningrad at least two squadrons of Su-24 attack and Su-27 fighter aircraft, collectively capable of launching as many as three or four dozen more anti-ship missiles.[1]

Though much of Russia’s anti-access area denial capability in the Baltic Sea is clearly concentrated in its ground and air forces, one should not overlook the Russian Baltic Fleet. Since the late 2000s, the fleet has added one Project 11540 (Neustrashimy-class) frigate as well as four Project 20380 (Steregushchiy-class), three Project 22800 (Karakurt-class), and two Project 21631 (Buyan-M-class) corvettes — all of them armed with multiple Kh-35 or 3M54 missiles. Reportedly, it will soon add another three Karakurt-class corvettes as well as one Project 636.6 (Kilo-class) diesel-electric attack submarine to its order of battle."

https://www.fpri.org/article/2021/12/crowded-pond-nato-and-russian-maritime-power-in-the-baltic-sea/

It sounds like even if such a force could be deployed, they'd be sitting ducks in case of actual hostilities.