How long till the SS shoe drops?

@wildgrass said
Where is it Joe? Is this like when DOGE found a real living unicorn?

It does not exist, so there is no 'where. You been reading sonhouse??

@AverageJoe1 said
I don't because it is not there , it has not happened. Why don't you fret about it while I pour my bourbon.

So you think there were no deaths as a direct result of killing USAID.
PROVE IT. You just said there was no there there so walk the walk don't just talk the talk.

@sonhouse said
So you think there were no deaths as a direct result of killing USAID.
PROVE IT. You just said there was no there there so walk the walk don't just talk the talk.

Well, I will, jut let me know where the 300K number comes from so that we will start on a level playing field.
ARE YOU AWARE that you literally ask me and our friends here to just take at face value that 300K have died?
I am supposed to respond to that?

@AverageJoe1 said
Well, I will, jut let me know where the 300K number comes from so that we will start on a level playing field.
ARE YOU AWARE that you literally ask me and our friends here to just take at face value that 300K have died?
I am supposed to respond to that?

Because you WON'T believe it no matter WHAT link I provided. LIES, ALL LIES. THAT would be your response.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/usaid-doge-deaths-children-cuts-7nb83dfkp

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2025/tracking-anticipated-deaths-from-usaid-funding-cuts/

Took AT LEAST one minute to find. One says 300 K the other 90 THOUSAND, Children, 42 THOUSAND adults.
near 150,000 and that is just in a month or so.

@sonhouse said
Because you WON'T believe it no matter WHAT link I provided. LIES, ALL LIES. THAT would be your response.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/usaid-doge-deaths-children-cuts-7nb83dfkp

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2025/tracking-anticipated-deaths-from-usaid-funding-cuts/

Took AT LEAST one minute to find. One says 300 K the other 90 THOUSAND, Children, 42 THOUSAND adults.
near 150,000 and that is just in a month or so.

well, well, well, what have we here???? WHO, Sonhouse, WHO is this person who says 'Trump's dept has caused thousands of preventable deaths..."" ?????????????????????????????
This is your own link, Get a life man, or better yet get your proof. THIS is proof.??This has not been a good cred day for you. I did not click on your 2nd link, I hope you understand!!zzzzzzzzzz

""""""Elon Musk’s tenure running Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency has, according to the academic Brooke Nichols, caused thousands of ‘preventable deaths’"""
ACCORDING TO (an) ACADEMIC!!!! geex

@AverageJoe1 said
It does not exist, so there is no 'where. You been reading sonhouse??

We agree. This back and forth ends as soon as you write the words 'trump cut social security".

@AverageJoe1 said
well, well, well, what have we here???? WHO, Sonhouse, WHO is this person who says 'Trump's dept has caused thousands of preventable deaths..."" ?????????????????????????????
This is your own link, Get a life man, or better yet get your proof. THIS is proof.??This has not been a good cred day for you. I did not click on your 2nd link, I hope you understand!!zzzzzzz ...[text shortened]... ooke Nichols, caused thousands of ‘preventable deaths’"""
ACCORDING TO (an) ACADEMIC!!!! geex

NEW YORK TIMES is MY list? What the hell drugs are you on anyway?
Besides, I PREDICTED your response.
Like I said, I did a google and it took MAYBE 30 seconds.
Yeah, I know, you don't do that fancy computer stuff.
AND BTW, it is on Trump and Musk's hands 100%. THEY are the one who killed USAID.
So those deaths are 100% on Trump and Musk.
Those kids and infants would be alive today if USAID had not been decimated.

@wildgrass said
We agree. This back and forth ends as soon as you write the words 'trump cut social security".

Thankyou, you are right, I will do it now, after I thank you here, he has driven me into insanity. Can you IMAGINE the time he puts into all this? And with all due respects, to this surely wonderful guy, his talents are being wasted!! T' what end does he write alll this stuff,,,,,,,,to me??? Who has said to please quit all this, and he still doesn't get that I do not read any of his posts (which he writes to himself)....that, i want him to be a better debater. The STD is exhibited NO where like it is here. Whew.

@sonhouse said
NEW YORK TIMES is MY list? What the hell drugs are you on anyway?
Besides, I PREDICTED your response.
Like I said, I did a google and it took MAYBE 30 seconds.
Yeah, I know, you don't do that fancy computer stuff.
AND BTW, it is on Trump and Musk's hands 100%. THEY are the one who killed USAID.
So those deaths are 100% on Trump and Musk.
Those kids and infants would be alive today if USAID had not been decimated.

I responded to the fact that You (Sonhouse) posted a link where some unknown person who may be a chinee for all I know, has said Trump Did IT!!!!!!!!

Jesus, man.

The outlet that posted it (NYT?) is quite irrelevant, Sonhouse. Point is, follow me here, is that you relied on What They Reported ("the unknown Academmmmmmmic said"....). You tried to tell me that that was proof, I thought we were friends, and you tried to pull one over on me!!


Anyway, if this will help, Trump did indeed cut Social Security , with the help of his staff who arrived at the reasoning therefor, with which he agreed. You are right,. Sonhouse , he cut social security. Some people disagrees with the decision. I did not weigh in on it, so I abstain on whether it was a good idea. If I had to vote, I would prob say that I am a MAGA guy, so , after we cut PBS and the kennedy center, etc, we should tackle SS.
If you respond, questioning why I would vote to do it, it is because, sorry, I am a MAGA guy. I am a 'We Hold All The Cards" kind of guy. The tough stuff. Not the dependent stuff, that is not healthy. In my opinion, of course, I could be wrong.

@wildgrass said
We agree. This back and forth ends as soon as you write the words 'trump cut social security".

Was it too long??

@sonhouse said
NEW YORK TIMES is MY list? What the hell drugs are you on anyway?
Besides, I PREDICTED your response.
Like I said, I did a google and it took MAYBE 30 seconds.
Yeah, I know, you don't do that fancy computer stuff.
AND BTW, it is on Trump and Musk's hands 100%. THEY are the one who killed USAID.
So those deaths are 100% on Trump and Musk.
Those kids and infants would be alive today if USAID had not been decimated.

??????WHAT is on the hands of Trump and Musk???? Geez.


(sonny wildgrass, I just hate leaving the feller hanging........)

@AverageJoe1 said
I responded to the fact that You (Sonhouse) posted a link where some unknown person who may be a chinee for all I know, has said Trump Did IT!!!!!!!!

Jesus, man.

The outlet that posted it (NYT?) is quite irrelevant, Sonhouse. Point is, follow me here, is that you relied on What They Reported ("the unknown Academmmmmmmic said"....). You tried to tell me that that ...[text shortened]... stuff. Not the dependent stuff, that is not healthy. In my opinion, of course, I could be wrong.

I also predicted THAT response, I said no matter what links I put out, and BTW one was the NY Times.
You WILL reject ANY hint of deaths at the hand of Musk and Trump.
What the HELL did you THINK would happen with the sudden removal of life saving food and live saving medications, for instance, on child born with HIV was on HIV meds that kept it at bay for a cost of 12 CENTS a day but that ended and within a week he was dead.
OBVIOUSLY you don't want to hear any of that because you, like Trump have ZERO empathy.

@sonhouse said
I also predicted THAT response, I said no matter what links I put out, and BTW one was the NY Times.
You WILL reject ANY hint of deaths at the hand of Musk and Trump.
What the HELL did you THINK would happen with the sudden removal of life saving food and live saving medications, for instance, on child born with HIV was on HIV meds that kept it at bay for a cost of 12 CENT ...[text shortened]... e was dead.
OBVIOUSLY you don't want to hear any of that because you, like Trump have ZERO empathy.

You were to prove the 300k
You did so by a New York Times article saying that an academic we’ve never heard of has said that thousands are dying. Throw that comment in the trash. And any newspaper could have published it, I don’t know why you highlight NYT

Your second paragraph of suppositions, like what would happen if Funds were taken away from paying for the 12th grade of high schooll, or suppositions, which go nowhere. I do wish you would tighten up your posting a little bit.

Supposition City.

@AverageJoe1 said
You were to prove the 300k
You did so by a New York Times article saying that an academic we’ve never heard of has said that thousands are dying. Throw that comment in the trash. And any newspaper could have published it, I don’t know why you highlight NYT

Your second paragraph of suppositions, like what would happen if Funds were taken away from paying for the 12 ...[text shortened]... which go nowhere. I do wish you would tighten up your posting a little bit.

Supposition City.

So one says "only'' 90,000 or so.
I guess you figure, since it is not 300K but only 90 K dead, no big deal?
They admitted it is hard to get good figures but they all say WAY over ten thousand children dead.
WHAT? ONLY TEN THOUSAND? Call me when it gets to 300 thousand, right?

@sonhouse said
So one says "only'' 90,000 or so.
I guess you figure, since it is not 300K but only 90 K dead, no big deal?
They admitted it is hard to get good figures but they all say WAY over ten thousand children dead.
WHAT? ONLY TEN THOUSAND? Call me when it gets to 300 thousand, right?

I didn't read your ramble of numbers, but I note that you are stealthly sliding away from 300K? what in the hell??