@no1marauder saidWhat type of person do you think would most likely watch this sort of movie, I bet a much higher proportion of pedophiles than your everyday viewer. Do you really believe that this is a way to highlight child exploitation, in order to reduce said offense? And using pedophile bait to advertise it. Really, do you really believe that?
a bunch of right wing trolls don't understand what it is about (and obviously would never watch it anyway).
@jimmac saidPeople who actually care about the issue of how social media and related types of pressure affects young girls I suppose. That wouldn't include the type of crazed right wing trolls doing most of the complaining who just see it as another weapon against what they regard as "liberals".
What type of person do you think would most likely watch this sort of movie, I bet a much higher proportion of pedophiles than your everyday viewer. Do you really believe that this is a way to highlight child exploitation, in order to reduce said offense? And using pedophile bait to advertise it. Really, do you really believe that?
@no1marauder saidThanks no1.
It's not a show, but a critically acclaimed French film. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuties
Pretty stupid of me to believe in one of earl's posts.
@jimmac saidDo you reckon a greater number of “pro-nuke us all” fanatics watched “the day after” compared to the general public?
What type of person do you think would most likely watch this sort of movie, I bet a much higher proportion of pedophiles than your everyday viewer. Do you really believe that this is a way to highlight child exploitation, in order to reduce said offense? And using pedophile bait to advertise it. Really, do you really believe that?
A really good movie doesn’t judge, it won’t take sides on an issue. It will portrait quite faithfully what happens in and around a subject.
Leaving interpretation to the viewer.
Do you reckon a large proportion of parents who Allow their kids on the internet watched Cuties? And if so, do you reckon they saw the film as twerking-promotion or do you think they read critique into the culture?
Have you seen it?
Perhaps your criticism would be better placed and more founded if you had.
@no1marauder saidIt honestly is recognized.
It's not a show, but a critically acclaimed French film. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuties
Ironically, a movie "praised for its critique of the hyper sexualization of young girls - and the consequences of that - as they rush to become adults in the age of social media" (https://www.gpb.org/news/2020/09/07/cuties-calls-out-the-hypersexualization-of-young-girls-and- ...[text shortened]... of right wing trolls don't understand what it is about (and obviously would never watch it anyway).
There are some threads out there of the dissident right discussing the issue which shows their understanding -- a rather famous dissident right personality, Logo Daedalus (15.6k followers), pointed it out exactly as you said:
https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1304153513816207360
Detractors:
It's very possible that putting a scale model of the Hagia Sophia in human feces could be a statement of opposition to "the degradation of civilization", or whatever, but it's still a scale model of the Hagia Sophia in human feces.
https://twitter.com/trajan_decius/status/1304157339168239619
Right putting images of children watching pornography or committing images of nude children to film may show the problem but couldn't you expose the sexualization of children without creating a film explicitly showing children being sexualized?
https://twitter.com/NiasDiad/status/1304158940582653952
The pretty famous centrist alt media personality Tim Pool perhaps summarizes the whole situation best:
stop [expletive] sharing that Netflix Cuties shit
Post a [expletive] screenshot and explain what it is I dont want to see 10 year olds twerking on my feed
I'm unfollowing and muting people
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1304036503828475904
@philokalia saidDo 10 year old children twerk?
The pretty famous centrist alt media personality Tim Pool perhaps summarizes the whole situation best:
stop [expletive] sharing that Netflix Cuties shit
Post a [expletive] screenshot and explain what it is I dont want to see 10 year olds twerking on my feed
I'm unfollowing and muting people
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1304036503828475904
And isn’t that an interesting phenomina?
A. Do these children know it’s sexualized?
B. How does it come into being?
I’ve not followed the internet debate on this, but it seems, with a quick scan, that it’s right-wing pundits being unable to distinguish between art, critique, abuse and sexuality.
And that within a community which defends a 17 year old shooting two people.
Pretty, pretty, pretty strange, if you ask me.
It’s like saying that Bowling for Colombine is gun-porn or Criminal Minds is psycho-porn.
So, a minute long excerpt of a twerking scene from the film was circulating on Twitter earlier, and I was honestly shocked by the content.
It was so bad that the Tweet which I saw it in was actually removed
https://twitter.com/nowylist/status/1304053768544284672
If their Twerking scene is too graphic for twitter, you can trust me: it is not appropriate.
@earl-of-trumps saidWhat just to ensure your sensitivities are not outraged we should shut our eyes to the sexualisation / prostitution of children?
@no1marauder
So Director Maïmouna Doucouré says I think it is urgent that we talk about it,
that a debate be had on the subject.
Ya. After he made a ton of $$$$. No, Monsieur Doucouré, the time to debate it
is before the filming, and the debate should take about two seconds, Just say NO.
Get off Netflix’s back and start lobbying your congress to look at what diplomatic pressure can be brought to bear on the government that allows a bunch of paedos with cameras access to young children.
Would you really rather not be aware of this stuff?
@philokalia said"Not appropriate" for whom?
So, a minute long excerpt of a twerking scene from the film was circulating on Twitter earlier, and I was honestly shocked by the content.
It was so bad that the Tweet which I saw it in was actually removed
https://twitter.com/nowylist/status/1304053768544284672
If their Twerking scene is too graphic for twitter, you can trust me: it is not appropriate.
Netflix gives it a TV-MA rating. You don't have to watch it. You can also set Parental Controls so that your kids can't watch it.
It's a disturbing subject, but so is war, serial killers, etc. etc. etc. which are pretty commonplace in Netflix material. The company makes it so you can block material you find inappropriate, so what exactly is the big deal?
@no1marauder saidI understand how an adult has every right to sit down and watch unlimited artistic nudity or even smut, sure.]
"Not appropriate" for whom?
Netflix gives it a TV-MA rating. You don't have to watch it. You can also set Parental Controls so that your kids can't watch it.
It's a disturbing subject, but so is war, serial killers, etc. etc. etc. which are pretty commonplace in Netflix material. The company makes it so you can block material you find inappropriate, so what exactly is the big deal?
But the content of Cuties was considered sexualization of children, and it was quite clear. No one is actually over-reacting.
I think that if you, No. 1 marauder, were to sit down and come up with "what is too far?" in terms of having girls under the age of 15 dance in front of a camera in revealing clothing, your standard would have been broken by what was filmed and is now airing on Netflix.
@kevcvs57 saidIt is always very difficult to face these things, and I am one of those who can't make it.
What just to ensure your sensitivities are not outraged we should shut our eyes to the sexualisation / prostitution of children?
Get off Netflix’s back and start lobbying your congress to look at what diplomatic pressure can be brought to bear on the government that allows a bunch of paedos with cameras access to young children.
Would you really rather not be aware of this stuff?
I did not complain about the film that Netflix put out on Rocco Sifredi, the Italian smut king, which actually included some disturbing images and depictions that I found troublesome. I literally had to fast forward through it, and did so partly out of curiosity about how far Netflix would go.
I can see why it is on there. It is entertainment, and I certainly do not have to watch it. I did not cancel my Netflix subscription over it, didn't even think of doing that, because these are adults, and that was a documetnary with redeeming value, partly in showing this industry in all of its nastiness.
I am not actually going to cancel Netflix over Cuties, either, but I think that they should remove this, and that the show, with even the message being morally sound, went too far, and in so doing, are catering to very unhealthy tastes some may have.
@philokalia saidSo, just to be clear, exposes about tasteless subjects should not be shown? Do you see how that protects the people responsible?
I did not complain about the film that Netflix put out on Rocco Sifredi, the Italian smut king, which actually included some disturbing images and depictions that I found troublesome. I literally had to fast forward through it, and did so partly out of curiosity about how far Netflix would go.
I can see why it is on there. It is entertainment, and I certainly do ...[text shortened]... g morally sound, went too far, and in so doing, are catering to very unhealthy tastes some may have.