Tennessee style executions

@vivify said
The 203 people I mentioned were actually exonerated; they didn't merely have their sentences overturned or reduced:

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/innocence

5,000 death row sentences were overturned due to reasons that may include procedural ones; of those, 203 people were found to be wrongly convicted

Those 203 people should not have died simply because you want to speed up the processes.

Djokar Tsarnaev is another obvious example of the problem here. Domestic terrorist lights off pipebombs during the Boston marathon 13 years ago, admitted to doing it, received a death sentence, and is still sitting in jail. That is way too long, and it's well below average.

3 months of appeals for this kind of stuff should be more than enough time, so if the state of Tennessee isn't devoting enough resources to make that happen, they shouldn't be allowed to do it.

@wildgrass said
Of course if you're innocent you should not be punished for it. But I'm still failing to comprehend the NEED for a 30 year legal process to limit the likelihood that happens, especially in cases like this where the guilty party admitted to it multiple times.

Consider the timeline: crime was committed Jan 1995, she was arrested the next day and the trial occurred in March ...[text shortened]... more evidence? What would have been a reasonable time in your mind to keep this inmate on death row?

@vivify said
False confessions, for one; I already posted a link where that was the case. This includes coerced confessions where police use unethical ways to pressure or intimidate suspects into confessing crimes they did not commit.

The most important reason: death is permanent. Killing an innocent is a permanent mistake. And it's one we should avoid.

If we are going have to the death penalty, time on death row is a safeguard against committing that permanent mistake.

@wildgrass said
How much time?

@vivify said
Given a man was found innocent 40 years after being on death row, I'm not sure.

@wildgrass said
who?

@vivify said
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/analysis-innocent-death-sentenced-prisoners-wait-longer-than-ever-for-exoneration

Larry Roberts, exonerated after 41 years on death row.

@wildgrass said
This person should not have spent that long in prison, you make the case that the appeals process is way too slow and should be accelerated for the sake of the innocent who are rotting in prison.

@vivify said
I think you're misunderstanding me.

I'm not advocating for a slow appeals process. It should absolutely be faster. An innocent person should not be sitting in prison for even a day, letting alone 30 or 40 years.

No disagreement there.

What I'm disagreeing with you on is the deadline: that if an appeal is not successfully made within 3 weeks, the execution should continue. Speed up the process? Absolutely. Shorten the execution deadline? No.

@wildgrass said
Shorter deadlines for appeals would speed up the appeals process. This is my point. Get it over with. You think the 3 weeks number I threw out there is too short, and 30 years is too long. How about 3 months?

@vivify said
That's like saying "you have 6 months to build a new World Trade Center" and expecting it'll speed up construction.

Doesn't work that way.

@wildgrass said
Do you think if you gave a contractor a 40 year timeline to build a building instead of 6 months, that the end product would be a better building?

@vivify said
There would at least be a building, while one wouldn't exist after just six months.

You think the speed of the legal system is based on how hard people are willing to work.

Not so.

Pike's former black boyfriend who testified against her, but was also present for the torture and beating, and even chased the girl down when she got away, and held her down and carved pentagrams into her body, is up for parole in 5 years 😄

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lethal-injection-survivor-christa-pike-former-satanist-boyfriend-could-be-released-5-years