@AverageJoe1 saidIf the punishment isn’t supposed to imitate tue crime, why have the death penalty?
Punishment isn’t supposed to imitate the crime. Silly goose you are.
That’s a clever-sounding analogy, but it confuses punishment with retaliation. We don’t rape rapists because rape isn’t a lawful punishment for rape. We don’t torture torturers for the same reason. The question with execution is different: whether the state, after dueprocess, may impose death as the ...[text shortened]... tional and inserting your feelings into every post you ever make. Can you not write about the facts?
@vivify saidBecause once they're in jail, no one gives a rat's ass what happens to them.
I agree there's a problem with the process. Given this problem exists, there seems to be no reason to speed up executions.
Maybe in some rare cases like the Parkland shooter, where we have cameras and other pretty much indisputable evidence. But those would be outliers.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo forcing women to be incubators is okay for you.
Because they kill people? Marauder told us that you believe in abortion. That is killing people. Puzzle brought this up just above. No one responded to the puzzle. No one will respond to me now.
Why is abortion OK, at the end of a pregnancy term, where there is a real baby there, no matter what Sunhouse says (he thinks it is a zygote). That is ok with you, kill a ...[text shortened]... Susie Ann will now give us a straight answer on this query …..stand by, PuZzle, I’m workin’ for ya
Yeah, "Right to Life".
Bull.
Once they're born you can't be forced to care one tiny little whit what happens to them. You cut funds allowing them to get food. But they're born then, so who gives an F, right? You're a hypocrite.
And late term?
Just stop making stuff up. You make up stuff like this so that normally human people care less about women than unborn fetuses. Gaslighting is still lying.
@shavixmir saidBUT.. The argument for the death penalty doesn’t have to be that the punishment imitates the crime! . It can be based on proportional punishment, retribution, deterrence, or the idea that certain crimes forfeit the offender’s right to life. Why should he have a right to life? I’m not asking if YOU think he should have a right to laugh… I’m asking you why common sense gives him a right to life. I fear that you are gonna go personal here!Whether those reasons justify the death penalty is a separate question from whether punishment has to literally resemble the crime. Logic …and law.
If the punishment isn’t supposed to imitate tue crime, why have the death penalty?
The justification for the death penalty isn’t necessarily ‘do to them what they did.’ It’s that some people believe murder is so severe that the proportionate punishment can be death. you can disagree with that justification, which you do, but it doesntfollow that every punishment has to imitate the crime
Common sense. I get the feeling that if I slaughter your family in the middle of a night at a lake house, with a full hatchet, that you would not want me to be put to death.
@Suzianne saidWomen are not forced to get pregnant, save incest, rape. If that were the case, I would perform the abortion myself.
So forcing women to be incubators is okay for you.
Yeah, "Right to Life".
Bull.
Once they're born you can't be forced to care one tiny little whit what happens to them. You cut funds allowing them to get food. But they're born then, so who gives an F, right? You're a hypocrite.
And late term?
Just stop making stuff up. You make up stuff like this so that normally human people care less about women than unborn fetuses. Gaslighting is still lying.
So the rest of your post is lost on me. It appears to go off on various different issues, which usually require a different thread.??
@shavixmir saidWhat makes you think I support that?
Yeah… there’s no excuse killing children because they are not healthy…
Yet you bomb and support the bombing of civilians everywhere on the fvcking planet!
Inuding children!
Fact is you are just making something up so you want look like a complete idiot.
You disparage the US for killing murders while your country kills children up to 12 years old for health reasons.
@Suzianne saidAre you for abortion up until the 9th month? One day before birth?
So forcing women to be incubators is okay for you.
Yeah, "Right to Life".
Bull.
Once they're born you can't be forced to care one tiny little whit what happens to them. You cut funds allowing them to get food. But they're born then, so who gives an F, right? You're a hypocrite.
And late term?
Just stop making stuff up. You make up stuff like this so that normally human people care less about women than unborn fetuses. Gaslighting is still lying.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidNo one does that, you animal. Stop making sh-- up.
Are you for abortion up until the 9th month? One day before birth?
@AverageJoe1 saidDeath penalty:
BUT.. The argument for the death penalty doesn’t have to be that the punishment imitates the crime! . It can be based on proportional punishment, retribution, deterrence, or the idea that certain crimes forfeit the offender’s right to life. Why should he have a right to life? I’m not asking if YOU think he should have a right to laugh… I’m asking you why common sense ...[text shortened]... ddle of a night at a lake house, with a full hatchet, that you would not want me to be put to death.
"Killing is wrong. So we are going to kill you."
FFS
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidKilling is killing.
Death penalty:
"Killing is wrong. So we are going to kill you."
FFS
Executing is executing.
Time for you to pull a dictionary, they are 2 diff concepts. They are not the same thing, Ghost.
The Forum is an arena!!!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidBoth relate to ending a life.
Killing is killing.
Executing is executing.
Time for you to pull a dictionary, they are 2 diff concepts. They are not the same thing, Ghost.
The Forum is an arena!!!!!!
Come join the 21st century.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYou pitiful liberal wimp, right down there w Shavixmir. Man y’all do indeed defend killers . brrrrr
Both relate to ending a life.
Come join the 21st century.
By your logic, follow me feller, surgery and murder are the same because both involve cutting a person. The outcome alone doesn’t determine what an act is….the circumstances, intent, and legal context DO! Geez
If ‘ends a life’ is your definition of killing, then you’ve defined the word so broadly that you’ve erased the difference between homicide, self-defense, war, and execution. That’s not an argument. Don’t you get it? You are just changing the definition!
Make it easy on yourself and give in on this one. Don’t you get it, Defense,, war and execution, all Killing. Whew.