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    19 Mar '18 17:421 edit
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/gowdy-on-mccabes-firing-undercut-credibility-himself/


    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) said former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe "undercut his credibility all by himself" while discussing his firing on "Fox News Sunday."

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday, over an unreleased internal report alleging McCabe directed FBI officials to speak to the press about a Clinton Foundation investigation and then misled investigators, according to CNN. President Donald Trump tweeted McCabe's dismissal was a "great day for democracy."

    The firing drew outrage from Trump administration critics, who felt it was part of an effort to impeach McCabe as a witness in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. McCabe released a statement that his firing was an attempt to affect his credibility.

    "Oh, Andy McCabe has undercut his credibility all by himself," Gowdy said after host Chris Wallace read part of McCabe's statement. "He didn't need any help doing that, and I find it richly ironic that he is lamenting that those are attacking the FBI when he himself does the exact same thing. It was the FBI who said he made an unauthorized disclosure and then lied about it."




    "That wasn't President Trump," he added. "It wasn't me. It wasn't the crazy House Republicans. It was his own fellow FBI agents that said he leaked and then lied about it, so if he's got credibility issues, he need look no further than himself."

    Gowdy added he would reserve full judgment on the matter and the proportionality of the punishment until the Justice Department's Inspector General's report, but he said agency members didn't get to choose when to tell the truth.

    "Make no mistake. The FBI is who recommended that he be fired. It wasn’t crazy House Republicans and it wasn’t the Trump administration," Gowdy said. "It was his own fellow bureau agents."
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    19 Mar '18 18:161 edit
    CBS agrees? 😲

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-what-if-trump-is-right-and-there-is-no-collusion/



    On Sunday morning, President Trump wondered in a tweet, "Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added...does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!"



    What if Donald Trump is right? What if there really is no collusion?

    In one sense, the question is irrelevant: Paul Manafort is facing serious money-laundering charges that could land him in jail for 305 years; Gen. Mike Flynn's been found out for his shady dealings with Russia and Turkey; and various other Papadopouli have pleaded guilty to actual—if relatively minor—crimes. So Robert Mueller could eventually issue stacks of indictments whether Trump's campaign colluded with Russia or not.

    But…

    For more than a year now, Democrats in Congress like Adam Schiff and liberal media outlets have promised Americans proof that "Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election using hackers and propaganda," as one far-Left activist put it. Back in October, Ezra Klein at Vox.com said it's "almost impossible to believe that there wasn't collusion between Trump's operation and Russia."

    Even now, two out of three Democrats still believe Russia actually tampered with the polls to steal the election from Hillary Clinton.

    With Trump declared guilty by Democrats and all but convicted in the press, what happens if Mueller confirms the findings of the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee -- that there's plenty of Trump campaign incompetence, but no collusion?

    For people who hate or love Trump, it won't matter. They've already made up their minds. But for the majority of casually-political Americans--who already think Washington politicians are worse than lawyers and used car salesmen when it comes to "very low" ethical standards--what will they conclude if they're told that the whole point of the investigation from the beginning was based on a baseless charge?

    Many are likely to think that if there was no collusion, then the entire story really was the "witch hunt" President Trump keeps telling them it is. He will have turned out to be right, no matter how many other things he did wrong.

    I believe this is the reason Trump stepped on his own good news regarding the McCabe firing. Why he didn't do what many (myself included) considered the smart move: Let McCabe's firing speak for itself. Why he sent out his first-ever tweet attacking special counsel Robert Mueller using the key word: "collusion:"

    "The Mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime," he wrote Sunday. "It was based on fraudulent activities and a Fake Dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC, and improperly used in FISA COURT for surveillance of my campaign. WITCH HUNT!"



    Trump sent this out just as the Russia story hit a profound—and pro-Trump—moment. Andrew McCabe, whose wife really did get $675,000 in combined donations from a PAC controlled by Clinton ally Terry McAuliffe and from the Virginia Democratic Party, which is also associated with McAuliffe, probably should have recused himself from any Clinton-related investigations. But he was fired, not by Donald Trump, but at the recommendation of FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. The head of that office is Candace Will, who was given the job in 2004 by then-FBI Director…Robert Mueller.




    The OPR reported acted on allegations that McCabe "showed a lack of candor" (is there a nicer way to say "liar" than that?) uncovered by the Inspector General, Michael Horowitz. He was appointed by…Barack Obama.

    For everyone other than fringe conspiracy theorists, the evidence of McCabe's bad behavior is indisputable. Even Rep. Schiff—the tip of the Democrats' partisan spear on Russia—conceded Sunday that McCabe's firing "may have been justified."

    That should have been the headline. Instead, Trump tweeted and took it away. As national-security reporter Eli Lake put it at Bloomberg: "McCabe's Firing Wasn't Political. Until Trump Made It Political."

    Once again, I tend to agree with Lake and others who think Trump's missing the mark by making the story anything other than "Democrat Inside FBI Fired For Fouling Up Trump-Related Investigation, Focus Now Turns To Other Partisan Actors In FBI." There is a direct line from McCabe to Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and Bruce Ohr—all of whom were anti-Trump partisans and engaged in behavior that raises legitimate questions about their trustworthiness. And that extends to the trustworthiness of the Obama FBI that sought a questionable warrant to spy on Trump based largely on information from Hillary Clinton's campaign.

    Trump appears to be acting on assumption that collusion is his silver bullet. Keep everyone focused on that question, so that when the verdict comes back "innocent of collusion," Trump can declare himself "not guilty" of any other charge by default. After all, if the collusion allegation was bogus, isn't the entire investigation?

    That's Trump's case, and it's likely to make sense to the vast majority of Americans who've been promised a collusion story Trump's enemies can't deliver.

    Editor's note: An earlier version of this column misidentified Andrew McCabe as a Democrat. It is not known whether he is registered to a political party.
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    19 Mar '18 18:21
    A total WITCH HUNT with massive conflicts of interest!

    I love Hispanics!
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    19 Mar '18 18:301 edit
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    A total WITCH HUNT with massive conflicts of interest!

    I love Hispanics!
    Sure, but CBS agreeing in some part?

    The world has truly gone mad! 😲

    So what should be done with Mueller once Trump is vindicated for the obvious witch hunt?
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    19 Mar '18 19:53
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    A total WITCH HUNT with massive conflicts of interest!

    I love Hispanics!
    What do Hispanics have to do with this?
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    19 Mar '18 20:291 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/gowdy-on-mccabes-firing-undercut-credibility-himself/


    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) said former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe "undercut his credibility all by himself" while discussing his firing on "Fox News Sunday."

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday, over an unreleased internal report alleging McC ...[text shortened]... cans and it wasn’t the Trump administration," Gowdy said. "It was his own fellow bureau agents."
    Gowdy unsurprisingly is fibbing; the unreleased investigation report is headed by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is not part of the FBI. https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/andrew-mccabe-fired/index.html

    At this point, we don't know who actually recommended McCabe's firing; we do know that it was done in a time period virtually unprecedented for FBI disciplinary proceedings.

    I guess we'll know more when and if the report is released and when and if there are Congressional hearings to determine whether the firing was politically motivated (hearings Lindsay Graham came out in support of) and when and and if McCabe files appropriate legal proceedings.
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    19 Mar '18 20:33
    Originally posted by @whodey
    CBS agrees? 😲

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-what-if-trump-is-right-and-there-is-no-collusion/



    On Sunday morning, President Trump wondered in a tweet, "Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added...does anyone think this is fair? And yet, the ...[text shortened]... her he is registered to a political party.
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    CBS commentary articles are written by outside contributors and do not reflect the views of CBS. If you bother to go to the end of the article you'll see it was written by a right winger:

    Michael Graham
    CBSN contributor Michael Graham is a conservative columnist for the Boston Herald.
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    19 Mar '18 20:57
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/gowdy-on-mccabes-firing-undercut-credibility-himself/


    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) said former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe "undercut his credibility all by himself" while discussing his firing on "Fox News Sunday."

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday, over an unreleased internal report alleging McC ...[text shortened]... cans and it wasn’t the Trump administration," Gowdy said. "It was his own fellow bureau agents."
    If the firing wasn't politically motivated, why was it a "great day for democracy" as King Donald claimed?
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    19 Mar '18 23:12
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    CBS commentary articles are written by outside contributors and do not reflect the views of CBS. If you bother to go to the end of the article you'll see it was written by a right winger:

    Michael Graham
    CBSN contributor Michael Graham is a conservative columnist for the Boston Herald.
    But just to give air to opposing points of view is mind boggling since Dims are the only one with the ultimate truthiness.
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    19 Mar '18 23:13
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    If the firing wasn't politically motivated, why was it a "great day for democracy" as King Donald claimed?
    Naturally, the entire Swamp is politically motivated. You just pretend it is only from the GOP though, which is moronic.
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    20 Mar '18 01:00
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Naturally, the entire Swamp is politically motivated. You just pretend it is only from the GOP though, which is moronic.
    Your attempts to imply that the disease is everywhere are futile.
    We already know about the swamp.

    Just let Mueller fix it where it hurts.
    Which right now is the buffoon in the Oval office.
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    20 Mar '18 01:161 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Naturally, the entire Swamp is politically motivated. You just pretend it is only from the GOP though, which is moronic.
    So you approve of all the bullshyte going on, the US a laughing stock around the world, 14 months later and T still has no stable cabinet and the reports coming out of the WH is showing a toxic culture going on right now as we speak, everyone walking on eggs not knowing if the axe is going to fall that day.

    You don't think firing McCabe 1 day before he would have gotten his 20 year pin and retirement pension and such, not some kind of political retribution and besides, T has been dissing him, and the leaders of the FBI for a year now, unrelenting attacks.

    I guess all that is ok by you, stable government is not a huge issue with you as long as we put Hillary in Jail or prove Obama is a traitor, that would be the icing on the cake for you I imagine, who gives a shyte what happens in government, nothing getting don but T touting for a SPACE FORCE?

    Can't you see past your own nose and see the crap for what it is?

    I also think it safe to assume you would be ok if your buddy T axes Mueller, right? Just another thorn of fake news, right?
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    20 Mar '18 01:34
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    So you approve of all the bullshyte going on, the US a laughing stock around the world, 14 months later and T still has no stable cabinet and the reports coming out of the WH is showing a toxic culture going on right now as we speak, everyone walking on eggs not knowing if the axe is going to fall that day.

    You don't think firing McCabe 1 day before he ...[text shortened]... ume you would be ok if your buddy T axes Mueller, right? Just another thorn of fake news, right?
    Any bets when T actually shoots someone on 5th Ave ?
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    20 Mar '18 04:14
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    What do Hispanics have to do with this?
    Yes. He should also blame blacks, browns, Asians, transgenders and people who don't own guns.
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    20 Mar '18 04:29
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Sure, but CBS agreeing in some part?

    The world has truly gone mad! 😲

    So what should be done with Mueller once Trump is vindicated for the obvious witch hunt?
    Mueller is a bad hombre.

    Lock him up!
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