@dood111 saidWho are you kidding? This is the president of the United States. In no way did he get the "same" treatment as anyone else. And he still came out wheezing like he was kicked in the nutsack.
He got 72 hours of bed rest and the same stuff everyone else
they didn't inject him with magic pixie dust
Though I'm sure Trump asked if they had any.
@cheesemaster saidA vaccine is to prevent you from getting a disease; it's not a treatment for the disease.
Could you not wait and if you get Corona ....just go to the hospital and get the vaccine?
Or would it be too late by then? 🤔
@no1marauder saidI don't believe that will be the case. They may very well be 100,000 deaths behind but they are also 5,200,000 cases behind. I think that ratio is pretty statistically stable at this point.
Considering the seven day average of daily deaths is now considerably higher than it was at the "peak" in April, I suggest all those figures are going to be adjusted upwards when the CDC data catches up (your source is 100,000 deaths behind). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Anyone who doesn't get the vaccine as soon as it is available is a damn fool.
As a tree hugging, union, bleeding heart liberal, I will not be getting this vaccine anytime soon. This vaccine is being rushed. There was another vaccine that was rushed into production for HPV. The creator of that one has since said that the side effects of it are worse than if one actually got HPV.
How effective is the flu vaccine each year? Considerin that flu vaccine is what doctors guess will be the 3 most common strains, but have been wrong, along with the part that covid19 seems to have multiple strains, it begs the question of the efficacy of this vax.
Ultimately, I would highly reccomend that anybody planning on getting it to read up on all known side effects, and consider any unknown side effects.
@no1marauder saidThe bulk CFR reported by the CDC ( lagging Data ):
221,000 to 12,646,000 is .0175.
100,000 to 5,200,000 is .0192.
So a slight increase.
221,366/12,646,498 = 0.0175
Currently the bulk CFR according to Worldometer:
320,028/17,806,984 = 0.0179
A VERY slight increase indeed... I don't believe any expert would consider that a statistically significant change.
@joe-shmo saidSurely you know that "method" is bogus to calculate a change.
The bulk CFR reported by the CDC ( lagging Data ):
221,366/12,646,498 = 0.0175
Currently the bulk CFR according to Worldometer:
320,028/17,806,984 = 0.0179
A VERY slight increase indeed... I don't believe any expert would consider that a statistically significant change.
Even your figures show an approximate 10% increase in fatality rate. What experts would say that wasn't "statistically significant"?
@no1marauder saidLive and learn I guess 🤔
A vaccine is to prevent you from getting a disease; it's not a treatment for the disease.
@zach-thomas saidAgreed.
As a tree hugging, union, bleeding heart liberal, I will not be getting this vaccine anytime soon. This vaccine is being rushed. There was another vaccine that was rushed into production for HPV. The creator of that one has since said that the side effects of it are worse than if one actually got HPV.
How effective is the flu vaccine each year? Considerin that flu vaccin ...[text shortened]... planning on getting it to read up on all known side effects, and consider any unknown side effects.
I'm waiting.
@joe-shmo saidExample of your fallacious reasoning:
The bulk CFR reported by the CDC ( lagging Data ):
221,366/12,646,498 = 0.0175
Currently the bulk CFR according to Worldometer:
320,028/17,806,984 = 0.0179
A VERY slight increase indeed... I don't believe any expert would consider that a statistically significant change.
Tom Brady throws two interceptions in his first 100 passes. That's 2%.
In his next 100 passes, he throws 4 interceptions.
The rate of change of interceptions is 4%, not 3% which is the result you got by including the base figures.
@no1marauder saidOut - In = Change
Example of your fallacious reasoning:
Tom Brady throws two interceptions in his first 100 passes. That's 2%.
In his next 100 passes, he throws 4 interceptions.
The rate of change of interceptions is 4%, not 3% which is the result you got by including the base figures.
Why are you talking about the rate of change of the CFR rate? We are talking about a change in the CFR rate over time. Those are different things.
The bulk CFR rate according to the CDC = 0.0175 ( up to 221k Deaths, 12.6*10^6 Cases )
The bulk CFR according to Worldometers currently ( 320 k, deaths, 17.8 *10^6 Cases ) = 0.0179
.0179/0.0175 = 1.02...
That is a 2% increase in the CFR.
What is the CFR NOW compared to what it WAS. That is what I'm referring to. You trying to bring in the rate at which the rate is changing as a measure of the change...your wrong.
Now before you go and change the subject as you usually do in these instances it would be gentlemanly of you to admit your mistaken, thus letting me know that you now understand the calculation?
@vivify
My wife has this theory: Trump wants to be seen as invincible, so FAKED the whole episode and so bigger than shyte, 3 days later he is 'cured'.
I like that theory.
Even if he DID get C19, the treatment he got was for the ultra rich not the average person. Rudi supposedly got the same treatment, by being commanded he get it from the corrupter in chief.
@Cheesemaster
You really need to get out more, but of course you don't.
the vaccine PREVENTS C19. If you already have it the vaccine is too late.
The vaccine is for folks who have not contracted it yet.
That means 18 MILLION folks are too late, since that is how many Americans contracted the disease by now.
To say nothing of 3000 + PER DAY dead now, and a LOT of those deaths are directly on the hands of our corrupter in chief, Trump.
BTW, how many tears have you seen Trump shed over this whole deal?
He listened to Alexander who says 'we want ALL of them to get infected''.
At least on Jan 21, Biden will be doing, actually is setting it up right now, to do what Trump should have done 9 months ago. Trump was told in JANUARY it was deadly AND airborne so he knew all along the dangers but goes 'in a few weeks there will be ZERO cases. Remember THAT piece of less than worthless 'advice'?
He downplayed the virus EVERY DAY for the last 8 months and did NOTHING until he figured out he could play the big hero and do 'warp speed' which was bogus in itself since the world was working on a fast vaccine response in dozens of countries.
But Trump takes credit. Which is just how a sociopath mafia don does it.