@sonhouse saidSonhouse...the old and the young have vastly different case fatality rates. Its a terribly illogical comparison you are making to say that some children have died.
@joe-shmo
All well and good but it is not just old farts like me dying. Even CHILDREN are dying from C19.
Your tears are staining your shirt from your concern over the lives of people who contract the disease.
For people under 30:
4 in 10,000 people will die
30-49:
24 in 10,000
50-74:
303 in 10,000
75+:
1679 in 10,000
Are you incapable of at least being honest about which age group this is statistically dangerous for?
* I averaged case fatality rates over age ranges that had equivalent resultant magnitudes.
@joe-shmo saidHow many times that this insane right wing rant have to be debunked?
Why is it so "amoral" in your estimation to see that the very elderly are pretty damned if they do damned if they don't? Is it logical to lockdown the US and destroy the lively hood of a 360 million Americans with a full life to live to save 5 million with less than 5 years to live? It is you who is the sociopath.
The failure to have meaningful and useful public health measures in place for the necessary periods and to have people actually obey them is what has indefinitely extended and immeasurably worsened both the death toll and the economic misery from this pandemic.
Other nations have avoided both.
Your hysterical exaggerations do not justify planned mass extermination.
@metal-brain saidAt a ten hour meeting.
At FDA hearing on coronavirus vaccine, the chair cut off questions and limited debate.
https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/12/hearing-without-listening/
EDIT: Sorry the video of the meeting is 8 hours and 41 minutes.
@metal-brain saidI get the impression you often just read the headline of your cites and don't read the article at all.
"No, that's not a certainty and Fauci and the CEO are being extra cautious, but the available evidence strongly suggests there will be little chance a vaccinated person will spread the disease."
There is no evidence to suggest a vaccinated person will not spread the disease. Tell monkeys there is evidence, not people. The CEO is trying to sell vaccines and so is Fauci. They both profit from them.
The evidence is there. It isn't conclusive yet but very often in science you don't get conclusive evidence.
@no1marauder saidSo it didn't happen. Got it.
At a ten hour meeting.
EDIT: Sorry the video of the meeting is 8 hours and 41 minutes.
@joe-shmo
Let me get this straight, you figure since C19 is more deadly to old farts like me, the fact children have also died but at a lower rate, means those deaths mean nothing.
Got it.
Hey Joe, suppose we add up the extra years those old folks would have had and see how many that is, what, 20% of that third of a million, say 60,000 deaths of old folks and say they would have had 5 years more.
So the human race lost 300,000 man/woman years due to Covid.
Of course that stat means nothing to you.
@metal-brain saidI'm sure there were some limits set like in any meeting.
So it didn't happen. Got it.
But almost 9 nine hours seems sufficient time.
@no1marauder said9 hours?
I'm sure there were some limits set like in any meeting.
But almost 9 nine hours seems sufficient time.
What is your source of information?
9 hours without enough answers about immune response?
Right, why discuss irrelevant things like immunity response (sarcasm intended). I'm sure they had better things to talk about. I have no idea what, but the FDA must know what it is doing, kind of like Robert Redfield. Who needs a vaccine when we have face masks? LOL!
Yeah, just trust the experts. Even the quacks like Redfield. 😵
I think 300.000+ dead in 9 months should be sufficient to convince people to get a bloody vaccination.
In the US the hospitals are full. The IC’s are full. The accident & emergency units are full.
This means that routine operations are being postponed. It means that if you break a hand you have to wait a lot longer to see someone to help you.
It also means staff are working themselves to exaustion.
If you can’t slow the virus down, your healthcare system will collapse.
And if you think people get feral over toiletpaper or on black Fridays, just wait to see what happens when A&E ceases to function properly and cancer treatments are postponed.
That is a whole new bucket of bad that’s gonna be tipped over your heads.
“Just the elderly.”
Besides being obnoxious, it’s also obnoxiously ignorant of the consequences to the whole of society.
@shavixmir saidIn the whole world?
I think 300.000+ dead in 9 months should be sufficient to convince people to get a bloody vaccination.
In the US the hospitals are full. The IC’s are full. The accident & emergency units are full.
This means that routine operations are being postponed. It means that if you break a hand you have to wait a lot longer to see someone to help you.
It also means staff are ...[text shortened]... Besides being obnoxious, it’s also obnoxiously ignorant of the consequences to the whole of society.
That isn't much.
@Metal-Brain
Yeah, 76 MILLION world wide cases and 1.6 MILLION dead, means nothing to a TROLL like you.
@sonhouse saidHe’s just frightened.
@shavixmir
Well he CERTAINLY is confused AND little. He is a little little man and a flaming TROLL.
You have to show him love and understanding.