@shavixmir saidWhy should I assume you meant the US? You live in Europe, right? What percentage of the US population is that?
That’s in the US, my confused little friend.
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@sonhouse saidIt doesn't mean "nothing" to me. The elderly should protect themselves. However, the world shouldn't stop crushing peoples lives with 50% or more left of it to extend the very elderly lives by 5% on the back end where most of it is downhill.
@joe-shmo
Let me get this straight, you figure since C19 is more deadly to old farts like me, the fact children have also died but at a lower rate, means those deaths mean nothing.
Got it.
Hey Joe, suppose we add up the extra years those old folks would have had and see how many that is, what, 20% of that third of a million, say 60,000 deaths of old folks and say they wo ...[text shortened]... the human race lost 300,000 man/woman years due to Covid.
Of course that stat means nothing to you.
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@no1marauder saidIt wasn't just a 9 hour meeting. The paperwork that went into the decision was circulating among the public for days.
At a ten hour meeting.
EDIT: Sorry the video of the meeting is 8 hours and 41 minutes.
Anyone who hasn't seen enough evidence of the efficacy of the vaccine is probably never going to.
Someone doesn't want to take the maybe 1-in-a-million risk of some hidden vaccine effect that doesn't become visible for months or years to reduce the 3 or 4-in-a-thousand risk of dying from COVID? That's their choice. But they're not being rational.
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@sh76 said3 or 4 in 10,000 risk for the young. Just a point of contention. In a rushed vaccine is it 1 in a million serious side effect or worse? Once its distributed en masse it could be very damaging if they got it wrong.
It wasn't just a 9 hour meeting. The paperwork that went into the decision was circulating among the public for days.
Anyone who hasn't seen enough evidence of the efficacy of the vaccine is probably never going to.
Someone doesn't want to take the maybe 1-in-a-million risk of some hidden vaccine effect that doesn't become visible for months or years to reduce the 3 or 4-in-a-thousand risk of dying from COVID? That's their choice. But they're not being rational.
@joe-shmo saidIt wasn’t rushed. It went through the same phase 3 trials that all new drugs go through. It just took less time because there was more money and resources allocated to it.
3 or 4 in 10,000 risk for the young. Just a point of contention. In a rushed vaccine is it 1 in a million serious side effect or worse? Once its distributed en masse it could be very damaging if they got it wrong.
What reason do you have to believe that adverse effects that didn’t show up in the 75k people it was tested on will suddenly show up now?
@sh76 saidhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9030943/Four-volunteers-got-Pfizers-vaccine-developed-Bells-palsy.html
It wasn't just a 9 hour meeting. The paperwork that went into the decision was circulating among the public for days.
Anyone who hasn't seen enough evidence of the efficacy of the vaccine is probably never going to.
Someone doesn't want to take the maybe 1-in-a-million risk of some hidden vaccine effect that doesn't become visible for months or years to reduce the 3 or 4-in-a-thousand risk of dying from COVID? That's their choice. But they're not being rational.
@sh76 saidIt was rushed. That is why they needed emergency approval. You are misinformed.
It wasn’t rushed. It went through the same phase 3 trials that all new drugs go through. It just took less time because there was more money and resources allocated to it.
What reason do you have to believe that adverse effects that didn’t show up in the 75k people it was tested on will suddenly show up now?
Here is an excerpt from DR. Yeadon's letter:
“Dear Mr. Hancock,
I have a degree in Biochemistry & Toxicology & a research based PhD in pharmacology. I have spent 32 years working in pharmaceutical R&D, mostly in new medicines for disorders of lung & skin. I was a VP at Pfizer & CEO of a biotech I founded (Ziarco – acquired by Novartis). I’m knowledgeable about new medicine R&D.
I have read the consultation document. I’ve rarely been as shocked & upset.
All vaccines against the SARS-COV-2 virus are by definition novel. No candidate vaccine has been in development for more than a few months.
If any such vaccine is approved for use under any circumstances that are not EXPLICITLY experimental, I believe that recipients are being misled to a criminal extent.
This is because there are precisely zero human volunteers for whom there could possibly be more than a few months past-dose safety information. My concern does not arise because I have negative views about vaccines (I don’t), Instead, it’s the very principle that politicians seem ready to waive that new medical interventions at this, incomplete state of development- should not be made available to subjects on anything other than an explicitly experimental basis. That’s my concern.
And the reason for that concern is that it is not known what the safety profile will be, six months or a year or longer after dosing."
You have literally no data on this & neither does anyone else.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/top-pfizer-whistleblower-trashes-company-vaccine-breakthrough-spin/5729650
@Metal-Brain
So let the death count go to a half million then. Don't take the vaccine. Maybe we will see you die of C19 and we won't have to put up with your bullshyte any more.
@sonhouse saidYou should take the vaccine.
@Metal-Brain
So let the death count go to a half million then. Don't take the vaccine. Maybe we will see you die of C19 and we won't have to put up with your bullshyte any more.
You are too old to have more children anyway. Fertility is not an important issue with you.
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Ivermectin works and it is now a crime to not treat people with C19 if they have it.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011
There is no need for a vaccine.
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you
@joe-shmo saidIt could be a lot higher than that if Covid keeps mutating within the non vaccinated community. It could mutate to a less virulent strain but that’s a 50/50 chance
3 or 4 in 10,000 risk for the young. Just a point of contention. In a rushed vaccine is it 1 in a million serious side effect or worse? Once its distributed en masse it could be very damaging if they got it wrong.