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@Metal-Brain
KRIST you are DENSE.
Trump had treatment that lowered the virus load. NOTE THE WORD VIRUS YOU 'insert pejorative here'.
The problem is those treatments don't make immunity, just a quick fix so he can get it again.
But there is a theory going around that Trump, being the psychopath he really is, didn't get C19 but faked it and then comes out in a few days a lot better so he can pass himself off as superman.
You get more and more desperate day by day, JUST LIKE YOUR GOD KING.
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@sonhouse saidWhat is your source of information?
@Metal-Brain
KRIST you are DENSE.
Trump had treatment that lowered the virus load. NOTE THE WORD VIRUS YOU 'insert pejorative here'.
The problem is those treatments don't make immunity, just a quick fix so he can get it again.
But there is a theory going around that Trump, being the psychopath he really is, didn't get C19 but faked it and then comes out in a few d ...[text shortened]... ass himself off as superman.
You get more and more desperate day by day, JUST LIKE YOUR GOD KING.
You should read Yeadon's letter to Hancock.
http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/top-pfizer-whistleblower-trashes-companys-vaccine-breakthrough-spin/
How do you know the high level politicians are really getting the vaccine? Maybe they are getting injected with distilled water. It is possible to fake all sorts of things.
@Metal-Brain
See you in 2021, say around Jan 21. I assume you will still be puking out Biden stole the election. You will probably go to your grave in love with your god king, knowing he could not POSSIBLY have done anything wrong, indeed, was the best POTUS in the entire history of the US.
@metal-brain saidYou have a profound ignorance of how "herd immunity" works. Let's start there:
Yes, the vaccine will prevent most people that take the vaccine from getting Covid 19, but not the virus. The vaccine only turns people into asymptomatic carriers.
I am not an anti-vaxxer and I resent that. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are new experimental vaccines. They do not even deserve the status of being called a vaccine. They do not prevent viral infection. ...[text shortened]... ding those that can't take the vaccine.
You are anti-logic. All you do is assume instead of read.
"What is herd immunity?
When most of a population is immune to an infectious disease, this provides indirect protection—or herd immunity (also called herd protection)—to those who are not immune to the disease.
For example, if 80% of a population is immune to a virus, four out of every five people who encounter someone with the disease won’t get sick (and won’t spread the disease any further). In this way, the spread of infectious diseases is kept under control. Depending how contagious an infection is, usually 50% to 90% of a population needs immunity to achieve herd immunity."
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/achieving-herd-immunity-with-covid19.html
So no, we don't need everyone to be immune to the disease before we achieve herd immunity no matter how many dumb You Tubes tell you differently.
As for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines they don't just "prevent symptoms". For example the Moderna trials:
"In Moderna's trial, 15,000 study participants were given a placebo, which is a shot of saline that has no effect. Over several months, 185 of them developed Covid-19, with 30 developing severe forms of the disease. One of them died.
Another 15,000 participants were given the vaccine, and only 11 of them developed Covid-19. None of the 11 became severely ill.
The vaccine was effective across age groups, genders, racial and ethnic groups, and participants with medical comorbidities associated with high risk of severe Covid-19, according to the briefing document. About 10% of study participants were Black and 20% were of Hispanic or Latino."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/health/moderna-vaccine-what-we-know/index.html
That means it prevents you from getting the disease to a high degree of efficiency. How does it do so?:
"“The way the Pfizer vaccine works, you are injected with a mixture of mRNA, and that mRNA gets taken up into your cells and produces the spike protein, which is the protein that covers the surface of the coronavirus,” explained UT Reseach Scientist Daniel Wrapp. “Your immune system recognizes that spike protein as foreign and raises antibodies against it. That way, when you come into contact with the real coronavirus, you are protected.”
Wrapp told KXAN the first shot is a “prime.” It gets your immune system ready, so when you get the second shot, your body can really ramp up antibody production to ensure long-term protection against COVID-19"
https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/how-does-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-work/
This information is easily available just not on the crank anti-vaxxer sites you are rely on or assorted You Tube conspiracy theorists you like.
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@metal-brain saidYeah, Yeadon really nailed it with the "no second wave" prediction. And you're really going to rely on an article who's main thesis is:
What is your source of information?
You should read Yeadon's letter to Hancock.
http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/top-pfizer-whistleblower-trashes-companys-vaccine-breakthrough-spin/
How do you know the high level politicians are really getting the vaccine? Maybe they are getting injected with distilled water. It is possible to fake all sorts of things.
"We Argue That COVID19 Is Really A CDC Computer-Generated ‘Virus’ "
Why would politicians get shots of distilled water? What crazy conspiracy theory explains that?
@no1marauder saidMadness.
Yeah, Yeadon really nailed it with the "no second wave" prediction. And you're really going to rely on an article who's main thesis is:
"We Argue That COVID19 Is Really A CDC Computer-Generated ‘Virus’ "
Why would politicians get shots of distilled water? What crazy conspiracy theory explains that?
@no1marauder saidNothing you wrote contradicts anything I wrote. I know how herd immunity works contrary to your arrogance and I was talking about the Pfizer vaccine.
You have a profound ignorance of how "herd immunity" works. Let's start there:
"What is herd immunity?
When most of a population is immune to an infectious disease, this provides indirect protection—or herd immunity (also called herd protection)—to those who are not immune to the disease.
For example, if 80% of a population is immune to a virus, four out of ...[text shortened]... t on the crank anti-vaxxer sites you are rely on or assorted You Tube conspiracy theorists you like.
The rest of your post is just ad hominem attacks because you know from experience I can prove what I say even if you don't want to believe it.
Do your own research instead of rejecting what I say because of incredulity alone. I'm tired of your habitual assuming. You are rejecting the facts because you assume you would have known if it was true. That is faulty logic.
@no1marauder saidWell, at least we can strike the Trump family off the list of potential vaccine recipients. They have turd mentality and are fully protected.
Considering the seven day average of daily deaths is now considerably higher than it was at the "peak" in April, I suggest all those figures are going to be adjusted upwards when the CDC data catches up (your source is 100,000 deaths behind). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Anyone who doesn't get the vaccine as soon as it is available is a damn fool.
@no1marauder saidStop digressing into things I have never heard of. I don't know what a second wave is and I'll bet most people don't. Stop going to weird conspiracy theory websites for your false debunking with false quotes.
Yeah, Yeadon really nailed it with the "no second wave" prediction. And you're really going to rely on an article who's main thesis is:
"We Argue That COVID19 Is Really A CDC Computer-Generated ‘Virus’ "
Why would politicians get shots of distilled water? What crazy conspiracy theory explains that?
I was responding to sonhouse's crazy conspiracy theory that Trump faked having Covid 19. By that logic nobody knows Pence got a vaccine injection. And why stop there? Obama drank Flint water and said it wasn't a stunt because he really was thirsty. How do you know it really was Flint water with lead in it? BTW, that was to convince the people of Flint that the water was safe to drink and he knew it had lead in it.
@metal-brain saidThat "thing you never heard of" was in the site you referenced including Yeadon's letter!!
Stop digressing into things I have never heard of. I don't know what a second wave is and I'll bet most people don't. Stop going to weird conspiracy theory websites for your false debunking with false quotes.
I was responding to sonhouse's crazy conspiracy theory that Trump faked having Covid 19. By that logic nobody knows Pence got a vaccine injection. And why stop th ...[text shortened]... was to convince the people of Flint that the water was safe to drink and he knew it had lead in it.
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@metal-brain said“ Stop digressing into things I have never heard of. I don't know what a second wave is and I'll bet most people don't. Stop going to weird conspiracy theory websites for your false debunking with false quotes. ”
Stop digressing into things I have never heard of. I don't know what a second wave is and I'll bet most people don't. Stop going to weird conspiracy theory websites for your false debunking with false quotes.
I was responding to sonhouse's crazy conspiracy theory that Trump faked having Covid 19. By that logic nobody knows Pence got a vaccine injection. And why stop th ...[text shortened]... was to convince the people of Flint that the water was safe to drink and he knew it had lead in it.
WTF How could you not have heard of the 2nd wave of the virus your living through it, or is it the third wave now. It’s a way of describing the troughs and peaks of infection rates, you know like how waves crash onto the shore.
Just saying something is possible is not evidence that it happened, when are you going to get that through your tin foil hat shaped skull.
@kevcvs57 saidWe have all heard of it.
“ Stop digressing into things I have never heard of. I don't know what a second wave is and I'll bet most people don't. Stop going to weird conspiracy theory websites for your false debunking with false quotes. ”
WTF How could you not have heard of the 2nd wave of the virus your living through it, or is it the third wave now. It’s a way of describing the troughs and peaks o ...[text shortened]... ot evidence that it happened, when are you going to get that through your tin foil hat shaped skull.
Define it.
@no1marauder saidNo such thing is in Yeadon's letter. Stop making crap up.
That "thing you never heard of" was in the site you referenced including Yeadon's letter!!
@Metal-Brain
There is no use even TALKING to you. You don't even think C19 is a virus.
You have ZERO credibility here.
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@sonhouse saidCovid 19 is not a virus, SARS coronavirus 2 is.
@Metal-Brain
There is no use even TALKING to you. You don't even think C19 is a virus.
You have ZERO credibility here.
Covid 19 is the illness/symptoms that sometimes results from getting the SARS2 virus.
Is AIDS a virus or is HIV the virus? Don't say both.
Learn to read.