Originally posted by buffalobillSure his archers and siege engines can easily take Venice. You have a lot to learn about military strategy, Saxon, even if you're being allowed to win the game due to the incompetence of others.
Forgive me the dumb question, but you lost the battle, didn't you? And there are now three siege machines aimed at your city gates?
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Originally posted by no1marauderTrue. I can't see how Venice, like Byzantium, can be taken by any one nation on its own.
So, in reality, nothing I could do, besides ceding territories and allowing fleets to enter my sea zones could have avoided war with these particular 4 countries. I've kept agreements with those I have entered into them with; they've broken them. Bavaria still can't defeat the Republic without massive aid from other countries and maybe not even then. We both know it; why not admit it?
Edit: And it's going to be a massive effort.
Originally posted by buffalobillJoining in, Saxon? Another alliance breaker and deceiver.
True. I can't see how Venice, like Byzantium, can be taken by any one nation on its own.
Edit: And it's going to be a massive effort.
Your post is a non sequitur; I'm not referring to the mere defense of my capital.
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Originally posted by no1marauderExcuse me, my dear citizen, am I to ignore the fact that Denmark abandoned his home provinces? Must loyalty blind me to reality? A wise ruler adapts his plans to changing conditions as I explained to you in PM. Now, you're irritating me.
Joining in, Saxon? Another alliance breaker and deceiver.
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Originally posted by buffalobillWhat, pray tell, did the actions of Denmark have to do with your alliance with Venice? Ya know, the one which was entered into to restrain Bavarian expansion? Now you have troops serving at the pleasure of a weaker realm in a province you could have easily seized long ago! How does it feel to be a lapdog?
Excuse me, my dear citizen, am I to ignore the fact that Denmark abandoned his home provinces? Must loyalty blind me to reality? A wise ruler adapts his plans to changing conditions as I explained to you in PM. Now, you're irritating me.
Originally posted by no1marauder...I'm gonna need a LOT of popcorn...
What, pray tell, did the actions of Denmark have to do with your alliance with Venice? Ya know, the one which was entered into to restrain Bavarian expansion? Now you have troops serving at the pleasure of a weaker realm in a province you could have easily seized long ago! How does it feel to be a lapdog?
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Originally posted by no1marauderA lapdog for a weaker realm? Rage on further. I'm interested in your theories.
What, pray tell, did the actions of Denmark have to do with your alliance with Venice? Ya know, the one which was entered into to restrain Bavarian expansion? Now you have troops serving at the pleasure of a weaker realm in a province you could have easily seized long ago! How does it feel to be a lapdog?
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Originally posted by buffalobillI don't deal in theories, only facts. You gain nothing by allying with the Bavarians who are militarily weak and run by a psychotic. Their entire inner realm is as weakly defended as Denmark's was. Out of some misguided sense of pity, all his neighbors have chosen to give the Bavarian free rein over central Europe without even the necessity of garrisoning his borders. You seem poised to assist him in expanding into France as well.
A lapdog for a weaker realm? Rage on further. I'm interested in your theories.
Since Bavaria is so weak and their leader is playing Captain Ahab to Venice's Great White Whale, the Bavarians are no threat at all to Saxony. On the contrary, their military weakness and vulnerable position with several rich provinces within striking distance of superior foreign forces would seem to me a particulary good reason NOT to ally with them. As of yet, I have not heard what possible gain Saxony and other nations gets from allowing a weak neighbor to expand unchallenged in Central Europe. I'd be curious to hear why you, Poland, Hungary and others are following such a foolish policy after all three of you initially entered into agreements to prevent such a bizarre result.
Originally posted by no1marauderblah ... blah ... blah ... blah 😛
I don't deal in theories, only facts. You gain nothing by allying with the Bavarians who are militarily weak and run by a psychotic. Their entire inner realm is as weakly defended as Denmark's was. Out of some misguided sense of pity, all his neighbors have chosen to give the Bavarian free rein over central Europe without even the necessity of garrisonin ...[text shortened]... y after all three of you initially entered into agreements to prevent such a bizarre result.
Originally posted by catfoodtimI submit my orders directly through the website now, and I do it almost every day, starting with the day I get the new turn and before I talk to anyone. That's how you avoid not getting your turn to happen.
Well.
The email to say they didnt receive my fecking orders comes at the same time as the email with the next turn file. That's handy lads.
God, what's the damage? I created the peasant rabble last turn so my plans are fecked. Rhaetia fell, which didn't surprise me as everyone warned me to protect Provence.
So, 25 gold and 2 provinces? Not lo ...[text shortened]... The bones of the Arletian dead will be ground into your eyes as a reminder of your perfidy!
Originally posted by no1marauderI seem to remember you telling me you were going to declare war on Arles in case he left troops in Lombardy and then try to pass it off as a mistake later. Don't be getting all holier than thou with us! You also said that you wouldn't continue to support an ally if you felt they were too weak. Well, I'm just treating you as you said you'd treat others who were vulnerable or weak!
Perfidy - the quality or state of being faithless.
Faithless - Not to be relied on; untrustworthy
Someone who breaks agreements on sucessive turns really shouldn't be using the term "perfidy" to describe someone else. Oddly enough, I might be the only one in the game who has followed every one of his agreements with another realm to ...[text shortened]... next as I have been sneak attacked by Germans, too (Hungarians, Germans, same thing).
It is a wargame, but it's called Diplomacy. Your wargame skills might (or might not) be good, but your diplomacy skills suck, and that's why you're getting kicked around. We all know how you can verbally spin any situation so it makes you look good, but with that skill and your willingness to use and abuse it comes the fact that no one trusts you or what you say fully.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI covered myself in case Arles violated the agreement; a wise choice as it turned out. I made it clear I would go to war if he left the troops in Lombardy and that's exactly what I did. No perfidy there on my part.
I seem to remember you telling me you were going to declare war on Arles in case he left troops in Lombardy and then try to pass it off as a mistake later. Don't be getting all holier than thou with us! You also said that you wouldn't continue to support an ally if you felt they were too weak. Well, I'm just treating you as you said you'd treat others ...[text shortened]... lingness to use and abuse it comes the fact that no one trusts you or what you say fully.
You're the one who's spinning; what you call "diplomacy" is so far merely succeeding in allowing a militarily weak country run by a dullard to gain all of Central Europe. You and others seem a little jealous that I actually know something about the military and wargames, so you've decided to make an internet game "personal" and weally, weally show me a thing or two! Outside of showing how pathetic you are it doesn't show much; even someone employed in a "head shop" can figure out that four realms ganging up on one might lead to some advantage for the gangees.
I know your history is pretty weak, but Japan was doing pretty good right after Pearl Harbor. Things change even in internet war games. I suggest you boys get a couple more allies to be "cool kids" like you if you're gonna knock me out of the game anytime soon.