Everyone has 2 cents to add to a music discussion, and with the surprising volume of liquor consumption with this customer base, that means them's fightin' words.
I have a question that we can fight about first: if no one likes a piece of music, not even the composer, can that music be "good"?
Put up yer dukes!! 😵
Originally posted by PBE6Sounds like a good fight!
Everyone has 2 cents to add to a music discussion, and with the surprising volume of liquor consumption with this customer base, that means them's fightin' words.
I have a question that we can fight about first: if no one likes a piece of music, not even the composer, can that music be "good"?
Put up yer dukes!! 😵
But FIRST: define music.
Originally posted by PBE6Say Beethoven didn't like his 5th and killed himself because of it.
Everyone has 2 cents to add to a music discussion, and with the surprising volume of liquor consumption with this customer base, that means them's fightin' words.
I have a question that we can fight about first: if no one likes a piece of music, not even the composer, can that music be "good"?
Put up yer dukes!! 😵
And you play that piece of music to a group of Spice Girl fans.
The 5th will still be good in comparison to what the Spice Girl fans would consider good.
So yes. Good music is not in the eye of the beholder. And in Beethoven's case it wasn't even in the ear of the beholder either.
Or something like that. I thought it was gonna be witty, but I'm just not hyped up enough on creativity today to pull it off.
Perhaps someone else can take my post and make it better. Thanks.
Let's discuss John Cage.
From Wiki:
John Milton Cage Jr. (September 5, 1912 – August 12, 1992) was an American composer. He was a pioneer of chance music, non-standard use of musical instruments, and electronic music. He is perhaps best known for his 1952 composition 4'33", whose three movements are performed without a single note being played.
Can something which has no sound be music?
Originally posted by darvlayYes.
Let's discuss John Cage.
From Wiki:
John Milton Cage Jr. (September 5, 1912 – August 12, 1992) was an American composer. He was a pioneer of chance music, non-standard use of musical instruments, and electronic music. [b]He is perhaps best known for his 1952 composition 4'33", whose three movements are performed without a single note being played.
Can something which has no sound be music?[/b]
Many songs have pauses in them, when nothing is played. It's certainly part of the song.
Originally posted by shavixmirOK, you say yes but your reason is retarded.
Yes.
Many songs have pauses in them, when nothing is played. It's certainly part of the song.
This is not a song with pauses. This is one giant pause. One great big moment of silence. A bit of a difference there.
Originally posted by darvlayIt doesn't digress from your original question.
OK, you say yes but your reason is retarded.
This is not a song with pauses. This is one giant pause. One great big moment of silence. A bit of a difference there.
If a small piece of silence can be "music" then obviously a longer piece of silence can as well.
Originally posted by shavixmirI had a crack at it, but decided it was already good to go.
Say Beethoven didn't like his 5th and killed himself because of it.
And you play that piece of music to a group of Spice Girl fans.
The 5th will still be good in comparison to what the Spice Girl fans would consider good.
So yes. Good music is not in the eye of the beholder. And in Beethoven's case it wasn't even in the ear of the beholder either ...[text shortened]... today to pull it off.
Perhaps someone else can take my post and make it better. Thanks.
Originally posted by darvlayMusic, as such, doesn't exist. It's just a description we give to something.
OK, fair enough.
So what isn't music then? 🙄
For example. Should I poo on a plate, you could call it disgusting. Put it in a gallery, voila, you have faecal art.
So, most silence isn't music. But as soon as someone says: "Hey. This piece of silence is music." Then that piece of silence has become music.
Originally posted by shavixmirA good example is the teenager who listens to Metallica.
Music, as such, doesn't exist. It's just a description we give to something.
For example. Should I poo on a plate, you could call it disgusting. Put it in a gallery, voila, you have faecal art.
So, most silence isn't music. But as soon as someone says: "Hey. This piece of silence is music." Then that piece of silence has become music.
His older, wiser and ultimately more sane father says: "Son... that sucks. That's just noise."
But the teenager doesn't hear noise, he hears music and runs off to join the Metallicrap clan.
Happens all the time.