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Originally posted by shavixmirI don't mind Starry....he's Good People.
I see someone recced your post.
And quite rightly too!
Don't mind Starrman, secretly he loves ABBA and T-REX. One day he'll come out of the musical closet and join us as we hold hands and sing:
La laa la laaaa die laa da...
La laa la laaaa da die laaaaaa....
As for T-Rex, what was Marc Bolan's last hit?
EDIT : Too slow.....answer : A tree.
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Originally posted by PBE6A few years back I went to an all-Cage concert where 4'33" was performed by a percussion quartet. At the end, one of the performers, looking quite pleased, remarked, "That was even better than in rehearsals."
Did it become music then? I wonder what the people who actually saw this piece (not) performed thought?
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Originally posted by darvlayIf I'm not mistaken that piece was recorded with a live audience, so it's not total silence - there is a kind of 'room ambience' apparently. So i think this could be considered music. I don't see why genuine silence couldn't be either, but in the end it will come down to how broadly or narrowly you define the concept 'music'. It gets a bit like the old 'What is and isn't art?' debate.
Let's discuss John Cage.
From Wiki:
John Milton Cage Jr. (September 5, 1912 – August 12, 1992) was an American composer. He was a pioneer of chance music, non-standard use of musical instruments, and electronic music. [b]He is perhaps best known for his 1952 composition 4'33", whose three movements are performed without a single note being played.
Can something which has no sound be music?[/b]
Originally posted by PBE6First question....yes, i'm a raffi fan. " NO MORE MONKEYS JUMPING ON THE BED" runs through my head everyday.
New fightin' words...
Does anyone like music that they themselves don't consider "good"? Also, does anyone consider any piece of music to be "good", even if they themselves don't like it?
Second question....could never get into much of the sex pistols songs but they are a good representation of that genre of music.
Originally posted by PBE6To be fair, the Chicken is probably delusional and thinks they are good. Clearly, if you've heard them, they are not.
Who doesn't like a good Shagg? 😉 RoyalChicken apparently... 😕
Too bad he's not here to answer my follow-up questions, such as: RoyalChicken, why do you like them if you don't think they're "good"?
But not just the Royal Chicken, other fans of the Shaggs include prolific musicians Frank Zappa and Rob Crow.
I like Wesley Willis. He could be considered "bad" but I like it because it's just one of those things you gotta love - a fat homeless schizophrenic black man from the streets of Chicago playing songs about his friends on a $20 casio.
Originally posted by uzlessNow we have a warm body...
First question....yes, i'm a raffi fan. " NO MORE MONKEYS JUMPING ON THE BED" runs through my head everyday.
Second question....could never get into much of the sex pistols songs but they are a good representation of that genre of music.
Why do you like "NO MORE MONKEYS JUMPING ON THE BED" if you don't consider it to be "good"? Does that mean that liking a piece of music is irrelevant to its status as either good or bad?
Also, why do you consider the Sex Pistols to be good music if you don't like them, and the only thing you find good about them is that they are representative of the punk genre? There are lots of things that are good examples of their particular groups, i.e. a gorilla is a good example of a primate, an apple is a good example of a fruit, a fork is a good example of a kitchen utensil, etc... but none of them would be considered "good music" because they are good examples of anything.
Originally posted by darvlayIs he the same guy that wrote a song about Alanis Morrisette? lol... 😵
To be fair, the Chicken is probably delusional and thinks they are good. Clearly, if you've heard them, they are not.
But not just the Royal Chicken, other fans of the Shaggs include prolific musicians Frank Zappa and Rob Crow.
I like Wesley Willis. He could be considered "bad" but I like it because it's just one of those things you gotta love - a fa ...[text shortened]... hrenic black man from the streets of Chicago playing songs about his friends on a $20 casio.
But the same question for you, why do you like it if you don't consider it "good"? Apparently, enjoying a song doesn't make it "good". If not, what does?
Originally posted by PBE6I think his songs are "bad" but that, in general, Wesley Willis, as a DIY kind-of rock icon is "good". Know what I'm saying?
Is he the same guy that wrote a song about Alanis Morrisette? lol... 😵
But the same question for you, why do you like it if you don't consider it "good"? Apparently, enjoying a song doesn't make it "good". If not, what does?