Originally posted by gambit3I'm sure it's my mindset, but one could say it is also perhaps yours. I mean...Raiders, Cornhuskers, Razorbacks, Longhorns, Wolverines, PAckers, Forty Niners, Rangers, Cardinals, Mavericks, Bruins, Celtics.
Perhaps it is your non English Western mindset that make the names in question seem childish to you. What are some of the names your teams are named? What is childish about Oakland Raiders, Nebraska Cornhuskers, Arkansas Razorbacks, Texas Longhorns, Michigan Wolverines, Green Bay Packers, San Francisco Fourty Niners, Texas Rangers, Saint Louis Cardinals, Dal ...[text shortened]... vericks, Boston Bruins, and Boston Celtics? Just a few teams from the various sports in America.
Why do you add an official nickname to your teams?
Originally posted by PalynkaSo you would name them Oakland, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, Michigan, Green Bay, San Francisco, Texas, Saint Louis, Dallas, Boston and Boston? Well, lets see about this. The name is Raiders. They are from Oakland. I guess they could have been named as hailing from California. Lets us go see Texas play. I am going to Austin, Texas to see the Longhorns. There are a lot of teams in Texas. Where are you going to go. Texas Longhorns. Texas Rangers. Texas A and M. Texas Tech. Texas Southern. North Texas. I think the official name for the Saint Louis Cardinals is the Saint Louis Cardinals Baseball Club. There are also Cardinals in Louiville, Arizona, and again in Louisville?
I'm sure it's my mindset, but one could say it is also perhaps yours. I mean...Raiders, Cornhuskers, Razorbacks, Longhorns, Wolverines, PAckers, Forty Niners, Rangers, Cardinals, Mavericks, Bruins, Celtics.
Why do you add an official nickname to your teams?
Originally posted by gambit3Lots of European teams in football (soccer) are from the same city and there's no such problem.
So you would name them Oakland, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, Michigan, Green Bay, San Francisco, Texas, Saint Louis, Dallas, Boston and Boston? Well, lets see about this. The name is Raiders. They are from Oakland. I guess they could have been named as hailing from California. Lets us go see Texas play. I am going to Austin, Texas to see the Longhorns. T ...[text shortened]... rdinals Baseball Club. There are also Cardinals in Louiville, Arizona, and again in Louisville?
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Originally posted by PalynkaBut they usually have name extensions that seperate them.
Lots of European teams in football (soccer) are from the same city and there's no such problem.
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid
CSKA moscow
Sparta moscow
Glasgow Rangers
Glasgow Celtic
AC Milan
Inter Milan.
I don't really see your point Palynka
edit. and most of the teams have nicks attached to them aswell....the Jags, the Hammers, the Gunners, the bears. . . .same thing really.
Originally posted by PalynkaI don't know about other sports, but in the early days of baseball, teams had no nicknames. They were just Detroit, or Boston, or whomever. The fans and the sportswriters gave them unofficial nicknames, which often changed according to circumsances. Cleveland, for example, was known variously as the Blues, the Broncos, and the Naps, before the Indians finally was adopted as their official nickname. The practice became standard and now all US sports teams have nicknames.
Lots of European teams in football (soccer) are from the same city and there's no such problem.
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Speaking of North American team names, there are 8 pro sports teams in the 4 major North American sports, whose name is not pluralized with the letter "s". Without looking it up, how many can you name?
By 4 major sports, I mean baseball, basketball, football, and hockey. And I don't include the WNBA, because if I did the number of teams would more than double.
Originally posted by Natural ScienceRed Sox
Speaking of North American team names, there are 8 pro sports teams in the 4 major North American sports, whose name is not pluralized with the letter "s". Without looking it up, how many can you name?
By 4 major sports, I mean baseball, basketball, football, and hockey. And I don't include the WNBA, because if I did the number of teams would more than double.
White Sox
Miami Heat
Uh...that's all I can come up with.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundIt's not the same things as those nicknames are not the official name of the team.
But they usually have name extensions that seperate them.
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid
CSKA moscow
Sparta moscow
Glasgow Rangers
Glasgow Celtic
AC Milan
Inter Milan.
I don't really see your point Palynka
edit. and most of the teams have nicks attached to them aswell....the Jags, the Hammers, the Gunners, the bears. . . .same thing really.
Atletico, Real, Barcelona, Espanyol, Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Everton, etc it's not like the teams are called Machester Tigers or Madrid Rockets. Rangers is probably the one I can remember that comes close.
Originally posted by rwingettThanks, that's a good explanation.
I don't know about other sports, but in the early days of baseball, teams had no nicknames. They were just Detroit, or Boston, or whomever. The fans and the sportswriters gave them unofficial nicknames, which often changed according to circumsances. Cleveland, for example, was known variously as the Blues, the Broncos, and the Naps, before the Indians final ...[text shortened]... eir official nickname. The practice became standard and now all US sports teams have nicknames.
Originally posted by PalynkaThe point is that we take our names from our cultural background, some of our football teams (soccer) started over 100 years ago, so names like "rockets", and "Tigers" jusrt weren't in the mindset of the common people. Historically speaking, we just have a whole lot more of it, so it isn't suprising that the Americans derive their names from more contemporary concepts, American football (for example) is a contact sport, so it seems logical that they should have names like "Raiders", or "packers" not unlike the names that boxers or snooker players (?) take for themselves, and as for the Heuston "Oilers" (they're still in Heuston, right?) well they are from Texas, and guess what texas is famous for.....
It's not the same things as those nicknames are not the official name of the team.
Atletico, Real, Barcelona, Espanyol, Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Everton, etc it's not like the teams are called Machester Tigers or Madrid Rockets. Rangers is probably the one I can remember that comes close.
Another point to mention is that, even though you say that the football names like "the Gunners", or the "Hammers" are not official names, they sure take pride of place in all the club Official merchandise. . .that is a mute point mate.