@bunnyknight saidSaying there are different types of ether theory to avoid an answer is a cop out. Either space is discrete or it is not. If the graviton exists there is an ether. If the graviton does not exist there is no ether. It isn't as complicated as some here want others to believe.
My problem is that even if I knew the precise definition of what they mean by "ether" it wouldn't help me, because in the end I have no idea what the heck that mysterious "stuff" could be. Another words -- there's insufficient data to arrive at a logical conclusion.
humy is a walking obfuscation. Don't listen to him.
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@metal-brain saidthere are no gravitons. Gravity is a wave
Saying there are different types of ether theory to avoid an answer is a cop out. Either space is discrete or it is not. If the graviton exists there is an ether. If the graviton does not exist there is no ether. It isn't as complicated as some here want others to believe.
@metal-brain saidLike I said, I have insufficient data to believe whether space is discrete or not. It's like asking me "Does God wear clothes or not?"
Saying there are different types of ether theory to avoid an answer is a cop out. Either space is discrete or it is not. If the graviton exists there is an ether. If the graviton does not exist there is no ether. It isn't as complicated as some here want others to believe.
humy is a walking obfuscation. Don't listen to him.
@bunnyknight saidI understand that. Nobody has proven the existence of the graviton. The title of this thread indicates space is discrete though.
Like I said, I have insufficient data to believe whether space is discrete or not. It's like asking me "Does God wear clothes or not?"
Can you clarify what you mean by "space can't be empty"?
@venda saidI have another rather depressing theory: The human mind may not be smart enough to truly comprehend this subject. Another words, in order to understand the nature of stuff and the universe, the human mind may need to be 5 or 50 times more intelligent.
I read once that someone said to Einstein that only 3 people in the world understood realativity.
He went quiet, and when asked why he said
"I am trying to think of the other 2 people"
@metal-brain said"Can you clarify what you mean by "space can't be empty"?"
I understand that. Nobody has proven the existence of the graviton. The title of this thread indicates space is discrete though.
Can you clarify what you mean by "space can't be empty"?
Even in deep intergalactic space it's packed full of information, which can be detected by simple eyes.
@sonhouse saidAh yes .... now you're getting to the fun stuff -- and also scary like hell.
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So we GENERATE intelligence in advanced AI.
@bunnyknight saidSince we exist that is obvious.
"Can you clarify what you mean by "space can't be empty"?"
Even in deep intergalactic space it's packed full of information, which can be detected by simple eyes.
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@metal-brain saidNo, it isn't. There are a number of different ether theories proposed. Do you deny this fact? And "avoid an answer" to what question? My post was in response to one of @ponderable's posts and in that post he didn't ask a question so, as usual, you make no sense whatsoever.
Saying there are different types of ether theory to avoid an answer is a cop out.
@metal-brain saidThe fabric of space-time, waving bye bye to gravitons.
Then what is waving?
( sorry, I couldn't resist )
@humy saidEither space is discrete or it is not. If the graviton exists there is an ether. If the graviton does not exist there is no ether.
No, it isn't. There are a number of different ether theories proposed. Do you deny this fact? And "avoid an answer" to what question? My post was in response to one of @ponderable's posts and in that post he didn't ask a question so, as usual, you make no sense whatsoever.
Different ether is still ether.
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@metal-brain saidThat may depend on which ether theory, depending on whether there is (or at least can be) an ether theory out there that is logically consistent with there being NO gravitons and I don't know if there is (or can be) such an ether theory because I haven't studied the subtleties of each ether theory as that has nothing to do with what I do research in; But, that's all besides the point: This has NOTHING whatsoever to do with my post in response to @ponderable post so your criticism of that post of mine makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I said NOTHING about gravitons or whether space is discrete in that post or in any recent post; What are you on? Are you hallucinating me saying things about discrete space and gravitons you disagree with? I have NO opinion in particular on discrete space or gravitons and your are criticizing imaginary opinions I never had or expressed; go and see a doctor.
Either space is discrete or it is not. If the graviton exists there is an ether. If the graviton does not exist there is no ether.
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Here is the funny part: Suppose we DO invent AI 100X more intelligent then us late stage monkeys, and they DO figure out stuff like anti matter rockets and FTL drives and time travel and such but decide we are MUCH too stupid to be let loose in the galaxy with that kind of technology because they figure we would REALLY fuk up the whole milky way.....