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Originally posted by Rajk9991 Corinthians 13. "If I have all the eloquence of men or of Angels, but speak without love I am simply a gong booming" " If I have the gift of prophecy, understanding all the mysteries there are, and knowing everything. and if I have faith in all its fullness, to move mountains, but without love, then I am nothing at all. "
Can someone assist with this expression used by some Christians? What exactly is a [real] relationship with God and does the Bible explain what this means?
This appears to be the key to salvation.
"Love is..." "delights in the truth" "In short, there are three things that last: faith hope and love; and the greatest of these is love."
Paul also states in regards to the circumcision of the heart, (Romans 2:28) "he will be praised by God"
Jesus tells us to Love God with all our heart, and our whole being. Any to me the relationship with God is reflected to us by the relationship with Jesus. They loved
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Originally posted by PudgenikThanks, but how does that explain what Christians call 'a relationship with God'?
1 Corinthians 13. "If I have all the eloquence of men or of Angels, but speak without love I am simply a gong booming" " If I have the gift of prophecy, understanding all the mysteries there are, and knowing everything. and if I have faith in all its fullness, to move mountains, but without love, then I am nothing at all. "
"Love is..." "delights in th ...[text shortened]... so states in regards to the circumcision of the heart, (Romans 2:28) "he will be praised by God"
KellyJ uses the expression very often. Yet he has not been able to explain it.
Sonship says that the Christians must talk about Christ and think about Christ.
I guess that is their interpretation of a 'relationship' with God.
Originally posted by Rajk999Jesus tells us to be like Him. If His relationship with the Father is based on love (it is the nature of God, after all) then aren't we to do the same?
Thanks, but how does that explain what Christians call 'a relationship with God'?
KellyJ uses the expression very often. Yet he has not been able to explain it.
Sonship says that the Christians must talk about Christ and think about Christ.
I guess that is their interpretation of a 'relationship' with God.
Originally posted by PudgenikGod I don't know, but I do know love. I know what it is to love and to be loved.
Jesus tells us to be like Him. If His relationship with the Father is based on love (it is the nature of God, after all) then aren't we to do the same?
If love is the 'nature of God' then does living a life fuelled by love (rather than hate) establish a relationship with God, even in the heart of the unbeliever?
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIn the scripture Paul makes a curious statement, For those who know the law, they will be judged by the law. And for those who do not know the law, they will be judged by the law written in their hearts.
God I don't know, but I do know love. I know what it is to love and to be loved.
If love is the 'nature of God' then does living a life fuelled by love (rather than hate) establish a relationship with God, even in the heart of the unbeliever?
He also states about the circumcision of God's children. "The real circumcision is in their heart. " "He will be praised by God"
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI will have a chess board set up for you in the City of God, but i doubt you will want to play that game when there. You will be preoccupied with everything else.
Then returning to the OP, if a relationship with God is 'the key to salvation' are such unbelievers 'saved' due to a life fuelled by love?
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeThis is repeated a dozen times in the Bible:
God I don't know, but I do know love. I know what it is to love and to be loved.
If love is the 'nature of God' then does living a life fuelled by love (rather than hate) establish a relationship with God, even in the heart of the unbeliever?
1Jn 4:12 ..If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, ...
But many Christians ignore it and focus more on talk and think about Christ, even condemning those who demonstrate love and charity as this is the dreaded works salvation.
Originally posted by Rajk999Very true.
This is repeated a dozen times in the Bible:
1Jn 4:12 ..If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, ...
But many Christians ignore it and focus more on talk and think about Christ, even condemning those who demonstrate love and charity as this is the dreaded works salvation.
