1. Standard memberapathist
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    02 Oct '16 01:58
    a 6th post in a row in case that's a record and I win something
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    02 Oct '16 03:23
    Originally posted by apathist
    Is OCD an addiction in your opinion?
    How about answering my question and I'll answer yours!
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    02 Oct '16 04:03
    Originally posted by apathist
    I admit this is a subject where standard definitions can lead us astray.
    Ah ha, then you have brought the subject to the right forum!
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    02 Oct '16 08:02
    Originally posted by apathist
    If we trust AMA, it is a disorder, not a disease.
    Reference please.

    Here is mine:
    http://www.centeronaddiction.org/addiction/disease-model-addiction
    Addiction is defined as a disease by most medical associations, including the American Medical Association and the American Society of Addiction Medicine.


    The 'disease' meme is pretty strong in our culture. It takes a free thinker to get past it. Hey! Learn about rat park.
    It isn't a 'meme'. It is the standard definition of disease.
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    02 Oct '16 08:04
    Originally posted by apathist
    .... and there is no doubt that recovery from any addiction is possible.
    That depends on what you mean by recovery. Some addictions leave a life long effect and desire of the drug / action.
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    02 Oct '16 09:19
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Reference please. ...
    http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/addiction-is-not-a-brain-disease-it-is-a-choice/
    http://imaging.ubmmedica.com/CME/pt/content/p0210pt1.jpg
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90688&page=1
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047254/

    Those are examples. The situation is in flux, and america is behind on this. Here we sue mcdonalds for our hamburger addiction. As if eating burgers is not a choice!
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    02 Oct '16 09:20
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    That depends on what you mean by recovery. Some addictions leave a life long effect and desire of the drug / action.
    You recover when you regain control.
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    02 Oct '16 09:21
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    How about answering my question and I'll answer yours!
    I've found no reason to care about your opinion on anything.
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    02 Oct '16 09:26
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    dis·ease (di-zēz'😉,
    1. An interruption, cessation, or disorder of a body, system, or organ structure or function.
    See also: syndrome. Synonym(s): illness, morbus, sickness

    looks like addictions fits the description to me.
    I stubbed my toe. Aw snap just caught a disease.
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    02 Oct '16 09:31
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    It isn't a 'meme'. It is the standard definition of disease.
    It is definitely a meme. That's what the standard dictionaries reflect.
  11. Standard memberapathist
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    02 Oct '16 09:32
    Six in a row again! Clearly I suffer from the disease of sixitis.
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    02 Oct '16 13:36
    Originally posted by apathist
    http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/addiction-is-not-a-brain-disease-it-is-a-choice/
    http://imaging.ubmmedica.com/CME/pt/content/p0210pt1.jpg
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90688&page=1
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047254/

    Those are examples.
    But not examples of what I actually asked for.
    You claimed:
    If we trust AMA, it is a disorder, not a disease.

    Clearly your inability to back that up with a suitable reference suggests you were lying.
  13. Standard memberKellyJay
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    02 Oct '16 16:122 edits
    Originally posted by apathist
    I've found no reason to care about your opinion on anything.
    Thought you would go there, make it personal to avoid the topic.
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    02 Oct '16 17:05
    Originally posted by apathist
    a 6th post in a row in case that's a record and I win something
    Only if the six posts were worth reading.

    😉
  15. Standard memberapathist
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    02 Oct '16 18:37
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Thought you would go there, make it personal to avoid the topic.
    Clean slate please. I'm sorry for being so stupid. I like thinking about stuff and trying to figure things out. The world is so wonderful!

    So please what is the issue here that you are willing to talk about?
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