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Are people basically good?

Are people basically good?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Good is 53%

Anything over 72% is 'Great'.
A lot of good 53%ters will be in the Kingdom of God, while the religious crooked pastors who discourage good works will be cast out.

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. (3 John 1:11 KJV)

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Think about it, anyone can say they are loving and kind, good and righteous. If they are
mean, hateful, belittling to others due to whatever reason the color of their skin, ideology,
faith, sex, nationality, political party, and so on pick a reason are they really loving, kind,
good, and righteous. If they are only good to a select few can they really b ...[text shortened]... ans 5:6
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
If we accept evil and wickedness, even a little it spoils the whole.

Yet the vast majority of Christians do just that. They justify it to themselves by believing that it is impossible for any human being to actually become righteous. They justify it to themselves by believing that they don't actually have to become righteous because God's sacrifice atones for their acts of unrighteousness. They justify it to themselves by believing that all their acts of unrighteousness are forgiven because they believe that God's sacrifice atones for their acts of unrighteousness.

How exactly is what you've written here not complete and utter hypocrisy?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Think about it, anyone can say they are loving and kind, good and righteous. If they are mean, hateful, belittling to others due to whatever reason the color of their skin, ideology, faith, sex, nationality, political party, and so on pick a reason are they really loving, kind, good, and righteous.
Like I said, I don't really care what you think are the "evil" things you do that cause you to describe yourself as "evil and wicked".


Originally posted by @kellyjay
What if they are good to almost all around them, but to 2 percent they attack without mercy,
destroy without cause, loath and so on. If we accept evil and wickedness, even a little it
spoils the whole.
Give an example of "destroy without cause". Do you mean senseless arson? Or random murder? When you say "attack", do you mean with weapons? Like a mugging or a robbery or street gangs?

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Originally posted by @rajk999
A lot of good 53%ters will be in the Kingdom of God, while the religious crooked pastors who discourage good works will be cast out.

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. (3 John 1:11 KJV)
Goats and sheep, no argument from me!

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]If we accept evil and wickedness, even a little it spoils the whole.

Yet the vast majority of Christians do just that. They justify it to themselves by believing that it is impossible for any human being to actually become righteous. They justify it to themselves by believing that they don't actually have to become righteous because God's sacri ...[text shortened]... of unrighteousness.

How exactly is what you've written here not complete and utter hypocrisy?[/b]
You think your able to become righteous? Question, as you are becoming righteous, what about your sins while you are working on that? Wouldn’t they count against you even after you arrive at righteous, so those sins still need to be atoned for?

You believe that people are not saved by grace through faith?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Like I said, I don't really care what you think are the "evil" things you do that cause you to describe yourself as "evil and wicked".
Okay fine, there a point to this?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Give an example of "destroy without cause". Do you mean senseless arson? Or random murder? When you say "attack", do you mean with weapons? Like a mugging or a robbery or street gangs?
Pick one the point was being nice to some doesn’t excuse anything done to another.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
You think your able to become righteous? Question, as you are becoming righteous, what about your sins while you are working on that? Wouldn’t they count against you even after you arrive at righteous, so those sins still need to be atoned for?

You believe that people are not saved by grace through faith?
People goto heaven byliving righteously. I was knocking on the door last nite. I was dying , the first time I had experienced the death experience . It was very confronting yet positive. Difficult to describe. My will had resigned itself to its fate and the Pearly Gates beckoned. My bodily sensations were all but gone and 'I' knew that this was it. The culmination of life. Then, two angels came and suggested I go back to my body as it would be best for my child and others for me to return,however, I did have final say and could have kept on with the procerss. I saw wisdom in their view and consented to let them assist me back to my body. Wow!! Basically this experienced vindicated my way ofliving for me. I am even more sure now that my values and attitudes are a valid means of ascending from the plane of manifestation. . . . . . .Yes, I know you guys will doubt me. But it was not a dream or hallucination. The whole day was just totally unpararelled and many negative forces had converged to test my patience and steadfastness all day long. It was one thing after another without a break all day. I thought 'Wow, what a stressful day! " . Then after pizza and beer which I had to relax by which time it was late in the evening I started tripping out before I went into this positive death experience. . .After I returned to my body I was like "No,no,I want to die. I dont want to come back!! " . It took my 15 mins to come to terms with the dissapointment of having to return after getting ever so close to my destination. After that I was sao cheery and happy, this experienced, so intimate and exacting had made the days earlier stresses pale into insignificance. This day was a culmination ofliving righteously for the past 12 months. So I can say from direct experince that living righteously is the key for eternity. 🙂

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Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
People goto heaven byliving righteously. I was knocking on the door last nite. I was dying , the first time I had experienced the death experience . It was very confronting yet positive. Difficult to describe. My will had resigned itself to its fate and the Pearly Gates beckoned. My bodily sensations were all but gone and 'I' knew that this was it. Th ...[text shortened]... 2 months. So I can say from direct experince that living righteously is the key for eternity. 🙂
Jesus said the same thing .. the key to eternal life is good works and righteousness. Well your experience is all within the realm of possibility so I wont doubt you plus there are many documented tales of such experiences, and such experiences are actually biblical.

So did the angels have wings ?
Just kidding.. 😀

Actually if they did have wings then you hallucinated.

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Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus said the same thing .. the key to eternal life is good works and righteousness. Well your experience is all within the realm of possibility so I wont doubt you plus there are many documented tales of such experiences, and such experiences are actually biblical.

So did the angels have wings ?
Just kidding.. 😀

Actually if they did have wings then you hallucinated.
The key is grace through faith, believing on Jesus. Good works will be done but salvation isn’t through works least any of us think we can boast about that.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
The key is grace through faith, believing on Jesus. Good works will be done but salvation isn’t through works least any of us think we can boast about that.
Ok.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Pick one the point was being nice to some doesn’t excuse anything done to another.
If you are not "nice" to someone, you believe you are being "evil"?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Okay fine, there a point to this?
Yes. Are you going to address it?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Pick one the point was being nice to some doesn’t excuse anything done to another.
Give an example of "destroy without cause". We're talking about your personal definition of "evil".

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