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Originally posted by sonhouse
As far as I am concerned, worshipping the sun is as valid a
religion as any, more so than most. What do we do if the sun
dissapears? We die. What do we do when the sun is here? we live.
end of story. The same of course can be said of the earth,
of the oceans, lots of things but without the sun, the earth
wouldn't even be here so it seems to me to be o ...[text shortened]... d as the ones worshipped by
Bin Laden, Pat Roberston, David Coresh, Jim Jones and Billy Graham.
Whoa dude!

Taste and see.......that the Lord is good!

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Originally posted by David C
Your derisive attitude only underscores your ignorance, CK. This has nothing to do astrology, it is astronomy. I'm very sorry if your faith in Jesus is so weak that you are unable to properly educate yourself to address a topic such as this, but so be it.
There's astronomy in your first post? Where?!

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Originally posted by chinking58
I'm sorry dude, but I checked it out, and that's what I found!

You deduce that my faith in Jesus is weak because.....why again?
How old are you?

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...Stonehenge...Attis, Adonis, Osiris...Dionysus...Easter...Christmas...can you tell what I'm on about?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
There's astronomy in your first post? Where?!
The precession of the equinoxes is an astronomical phenomena. Am I not being clear enough?

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Originally posted by David C
The precession of the equinoxes is an [b]astronomical phenomena. Am I not being clear enough?[/b]
Can you tell us, David, what is the link between the equinoxes and some of the charming mythological personages that tend to crop up in these discussions?

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*quote*As far as I am concerned, worshipping the sun is as valid a
religion as any, more so than most. What do we do if the sun
dissapears? We die. What do we do when the sun is here? we live.
end of story. The same of course can be said of the earth,
of the oceans, lots of things but without the sun, the earth
wouldn't even be here so it seems to me to be one of the
fundamentals of our existance, so why not worship it? */quote*

Odd concept. Worship of an object based on its perceived physical values… While the sun may hold great power (or energy), it is no more a God then the water you drink (also necessary for sustaining our lives). But what kind of hope is put in a burning ball of gas? Can it hear your cries for help? For justice? Does it care? No, I think not. Lest science has fooled us all… lol

*quote* It is exactly as responsive as a god as the ones worshipped by
Bin Laden, Pat Roberston, David Coresh, Jim Jones and Billy Graham.*/quote*
Perhaps you can enlighten us with examples of when the Sun has been ‘responsive?’

Why is this so much easier to believe then a loving God, creator of all?

(sorry about the quotes)

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Originally posted by chinking58
Whoa dude!

Taste and see.......that the Lord is good!
And you know this how?

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Originally posted by 3kaji
*quote*As far as I am concerned, worshipping the sun is as valid a
religion as any, more so than most. What do we do if the sun
dissapears? We die. What do we do when the sun is here? we live.
end of story. The same of course can be said of the earth,
of the oceans, lots of things but without the sun, the earth
wouldn't even be here so it seems to m ...[text shortened]... is this so much easier to believe then a loving God, creator of all?

(sorry about the quotes)
I think you didn't quite understand my allusion here, but that is
to be expected of blind followers, pardon me if you are offended.
I said exactly as responsive because that is in fact the ultimate
truth, your so-called god is no more responsive than the sun.
You think because someone waves their hands and someone else
gets well you attribute it to god. That is the definition of blind
follower.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I think you didn't quite understand my allusion here, but that is
to be expected of blind followers, pardon me if you are offended.
I said exactly as responsive because that is in fact the ultimate
truth, your so-called god is no more responsive than the sun.
You think because someone waves their hands and someone else
gets well you attribute it to god. That is the definition of blind
follower.
Thats ok. Im not offended. Infact I compliment you for noting a key problem with many Chritians/religions today. Rather then seeking the truth, people look for what they can gain from God.

But the truth is that Gods answers are not always the ones you want to hear. His plan doesnt always mean everything is going to be hunky-dory (through out perspective). But God does communicate to us; through scripture, dirrectly through the Holy Spirit, and at times through mericles.

So yes, I would agree that there is a gross missconception as to what a responsive God is, but no, I would not say that God is as responsive as an inanimate object.

Also, I think the definition behind a 'blind follower' might be more apropriately applied to one who fervently follows, but does not understand where they are going.

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Originally posted by 3kaji
*quote*As far as I am concerned, worshipping the sun is as valid a
religion as any, more so than most. What do we do if the sun
dissapears? We die. What do we do when the sun is here? we live.
end of story. The same of course can be said of the earth,
of the oceans, lots of things but without the sun, the earth
wouldn't even be here so it seems to m ...[text shortened]... is this so much easier to believe then a loving God, creator of all?

(sorry about the quotes)
The Sun has been exactly as responsive as the Christian God. Actually, it's even more responsive, since it lets me see it.

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Originally posted by David C
The precession of the equinoxes is an [b]astronomical phenomena. Am I not being clear enough?[/b]
Ok. You have an astronomical word in there. Two actually since the Sun is in your post.

Is there any more astronomy in your post?

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You people lack imagination.

Here's a decent enough link that covers the arguments:http://jesusastrotheology.netfirms.com/

A book would be better. If you've got the attention span, try The Golden Bough (James Frazer) for starters. Better still, The Origins of the Sacred (Dudley Young).

Or maybe just ask yourself, what is Easter?

You could learn something from all this, you know.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Ok. You have an astronomical word in there. Two actually since the Sun is in your post.

Is there any more astronomy in your post?
I would have thought you at least would know what he's on about, oh Goat, unless you're being deliberately obtuse.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I think you didn't quite understand my allusion here, but that is
to be expected of blind followers, pardon me if you are offended.
I said exactly as responsive because that is in fact the ultimate
truth, your so-called god is no more responsive than the sun.
You think because someone waves their hands and someone else
gets well you attribute it to god. That is the definition of blind
follower.
You think because someone waves their hands and someone else
gets well you attribute it to god. That is the definition of blind
follower.


What about someone puts needle in someone else and the second person gets well?

Humean skepticism will only get you so far.