Originally posted by Rajk999I am quaking in my boots. Fear factor does not work on me since I have liberated myself from the man made prognostications of an anthropomorphic god of our own making.
You will not know who wins. You will be dead in your sins.
John 8:24 : for if ye believe not that I am he [the Son of God], ye shall die in your sins.
Originally posted by sonhouseWell good for you. Eat, drink and be merry. Enjoy your life.
I am quaking in my boots. Fear factor does not work on me since I have liberated myself from the man made prognostications of an anthropomorphic god of our own making.
Ecc 5:18 ..it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.
Originally posted by Rajk999And likewise. I bear no animosity towards the average christian. Only the leaders.
Well good for you. Eat, drink and be merry. Enjoy your life.
Ecc 5:18 ..it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.
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Originally posted by sonhouseNot to mention people like me, who have had "spiritual experiences" , but have never talked to, or been talked to by Christ (or any other christian representatives).
Two questions: Why do you continually attack JW's when you both believe in Christ and why do you also say only those who believe in Christ will be saved, etc., when there are people on earth who never have and never will even hear the name Christ so what do you think will happen to those people? They automatically go to your hell because they never got the ...[text shortened]... eaven because they didn't know about original sin?
Don't you see a problem with all this?
(I would claim that other "higher entities" have "talked" to me now and then. I would also like to add, that I dont think these voices are in my head. I think I know the difference. As any well educated person ,(in these matters), would tell you .)
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou better watch out for Satan and his demons, who do this sort of thing.
Not to mention people like me, who have had "spiritual experiences" , but have never talked to, or been talked to by Christ (or any other christian representatives).
(I would claim that other "higher entities" have "talked" to me now and then. I would also like to add, that I dont think these voices are in my head. I think I know the difference. As any well educated person ,(in these matters), would tell you .)
The Holy Bible says to test the spirits that they are from God.
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Originally posted by RJHindsYes and Satan and the spirits have never read the bible and thus wouldn't know how to pass these tests....
You better watch out for Satan and his demons, who do this sort of thing.
The Holy Bible says to test the spirits that they are from God.
Originally posted by RJHindsThe only take I have on "Satan" is that "He" is a misguided "soul" that God takes account of.
You better watch out for Satan and his demons, who do this sort of thing.
The Holy Bible says to test the spirits that they are from God.
In my belief system, it is this "Satan" that tries to stop us from alligning our wills with God's will, keeping us in this physical merry-go-round.
But I pay no attention to "Him" , and certainly "God" does not hate "Satan" in anyway, for God is love. Even christians get taught this 🙂
How can you truly believe that "God is Love" if you continue to make separations and value judgements, that as even you christians say, should be left to Christ.
I will only comment on my own experiences and in my understanding there is absolutely nothing stopping us from "moving forward spiritually". Not even "Satan "
Originally posted by googlefudgeyes, it opens a Pandoras box of claims and counter claims - many of which I have heard all too much.
Yes and Satan and the spirits have never read the bible and thus wouldn't know how to pass these tests....
But I cant pick and choose what to listen to, (once I have asked a sincere question, or some such), 🙂
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou are probably right but they probably don't understand fully what it says. First the Bible says that ones who do not want to learn the truths in the Bible, God will not let them see. One has to have the right heart condition and it's for sure Satan and the demons don't have that.
Yes and Satan and the spirits have never read the bible and thus wouldn't know how to pass these tests....
But then the demons are said to be in Tarturas which is not an actual place but it's a condition of darkness...
"From these texts it is evident that Tartarus is a condition rather than a particular location, inasmuch as Peter, on the one hand, speaks of these disobedient spirits as being in “pits of dense darkness,” while Paul speaks of them as being in “heavenly places” from which they exercise a rule of darkness as wicked spirit forces. (2Pe 2:4; Eph 6:10-12) The dense darkness similarly is not literally a lack of light but results from their being cut off from illumination by God as renegades and outcasts from his family, with only a dark outlook as to their eternal destiny."
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4 God didn’t spare the angels when they sinned but cast them into the lowest level of the underworld and committed them to chains of darkness, keeping them there until the judgment.
Originally posted by galveston75So I ask again, what happens to those who all through their lives never heard and never will hear of Jesus, Christianity, original sin, etc.? Like tribes deep in the Amazon we have never met and never will.
You are probably right but they probably don't understand fully what it says. First the Bible says that ones who do not want to learn the truths in the Bible, God will not let them see. One has to have the right heart condition and it's for sure Satan and the demons don't have that.
But then the demons are said to be in Tarturas which is not an actual ...[text shortened]... nderworld and committed them to chains of darkness, keeping them there until the judgment.
Originally posted by sonhouseGod will judge them on the basis of their conscience. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong.
So I ask again, what happens to those who all through their lives never heard and never will hear of Jesus, Christianity, original sin, etc.? Like tribes deep in the Amazon we have never met and never will.
Originally posted by josephwWhat if the mores and such are way different from ours, like in some tribes it is ok to cut out a girl's clitoris and has been going on for hundreds of years. So would your god condemn them for that practice or others that we would consider bad?
God will judge them on the basis of their conscience. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong.