"Christian" Trump supporters

@kellyjay said
Trump was not my first pick, second pick, even sixth pick. I was never going to vote
for Hillary, mainly because I didn't trust her, I think she had done so many things
wrong and gotten away with them, because I felt she was protected by those in
power.

I think the thing that separated Trump from the rest, was he wasn't one of the
good ole boys in the Republican party ...[text shortened]... by a lot of people who are
mad at Trump. With some of these same people are now, calling for blood!

Misogyny, racism, greed and simple mindedness had no small part in getting Trump elected and play no small part in his continued support. People like people like themselves.

The personal attacks are non-stop now, I don't even hear them any more like I did at the very beginning, now they just blend into a long procession of hate Trump over and over, there is always some new reason to hate Trump, it is near pathological.

If nothing else, Trump understands his supporters.

As he said, " You know what else they say about my people? The polls, they say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s like incredible".
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/23/trump_i_could_stand_in_the_middle_of_fifth_avenue_and_shoot_somebody_and_i_wouldnt_lose_any_voters.html

And he is right. He knows that it doesn't matter what despicable things he says or does. His supporters will continue to believe in him. They believe whatever he tells them to believe. That's what's "pathological".

Much of your post testifies to this.

@kellyjay said
Trump was not my first pick, second pick, even sixth pick. I was never going to vote
for Hillary, mainly because I didn't trust her, I think she had done so many things
wrong and gotten away with them, because I felt she was protected by those in
power.

I think the thing that separated Trump from the rest, was he wasn't one of the
good ole boys in the Republican party ...[text shortened]... by a lot of people who are
mad at Trump. With some of these same people are now, calling for blood!

How is this support you give to Trump and his character and behaviour rooted in Christian principles?

@fmf said
How is this support you give to Trump and his character and behaviour rooted in Christian principles?

Personally I think my country isn't to far away from destroying itself. Hate
mongering is getting close to getting out of hand already, lawlessness seems to
be theme with many. If people are happy to see people they disagree with get
destroyed by unproven accusation without giving them the benefit of the
doubt, mob rule isn't far behind.

With respect to Christian principles, God puts up and down leaders, I pray each
one we have, those I like those I don't, because my feelings towards them are
not important.

Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

@kellyjay said
With respect to Christian principles, God puts up and down leaders, I pray each
one we have, those I like those I don't, because my feelings towards them are
not important.

So you supported Barack Obama in the same way as you support Trump and you did so because of your Christian principles, is that what you mean?

@kellyjay said
It wouldn't be so bad, except that things that other Presidents gotten away with
and were defended for, are worse than the things Trump has said and done, in my
opinion. Take Clinton for example, he had a trail of women who accused him of
assaulting them, but he was given a pass, and defended by a lot of people who are
mad at Trump. With some of these same people are now, calling for blood!

I understand this criticism of Clinton. But, by raising it, are you seeking - by implication - to criticize Trump and his own "trail of women who accused him of assaulting them" or are you suggesting he be "given a pass"? Remember, I am looking for the Christian principles that underpin what you are saying.

@fmf said
So you supported Barack Obama in the same way as you support Trump and you did so because of your Christian principles, is that what you mean?

Yes, I prayed for him too.

@fmf said
I understand this criticism of Clinton. But, by raising it, are you seeking - by implication - to criticize Trump and his own "trail of women who accused him of assaulting them" or are you suggesting he be "given a pass"? Remember, I am looking for the Christian principles that underpin what you are saying.

Not at all, if the women can make a case they should. If the case isn't made, or if
it seems like a false claim then that has to be accepted as true too. If both men
did assault women, both men should be jailed, and if there are those that kept them
shielded of these crimes they too need to be locked up.

@kellyjay said
Yes, I prayed for him too.

Do you think your prayers for Obama worked? Which prayers did you feel were 'answered'?

@fmf said
I understand this criticism of Clinton. But, by raising it, are you seeking - by implication - to criticize Trump and his own "trail of women who accused him of assaulting them" or are you suggesting he be "given a pass"? Remember, I am looking for the Christian principles that underpin what you are saying.

The under pinning is we are to respect authority, it doesn't say authority we like.
Lawlessness isn't respecting authority, it is breaking away from it.

@fmf said
Do you think your prayers for Obama worked? Which prayers did you feel were 'answered'?

He stayed alive, I asked that God protected him, and give him wisdom, to do right
things. I can say I know at least half of my prayers were answered as I asked.

@kellyjay said
Not at all, if the women can make a case they should. If the case isn't made, or if
it seems like a false claim then that has to be accepted as true too. If both men
did assault women, both men should be jailed, and if there are those that kept them
shielded of these crimes they too need to be locked up.

So, does the fact that neither man has been gaoled mean - to you - that the women did not make their case?

The women who accused Trump of assaulting them did so after he was heard bragging about assaulting women. They claimed they had been assaulted in exactly the way he admitted. I don't remember you calling for him to be gaoled.

@kellyjay said
He stayed alive, I asked that God protected him, and give him wisdom, to do right
things. I can say I know at least half of my prayers were answered as I asked.

Do you think in terms of personal behaviour and integrity, Barack Obama was nearer to a Christian ideal than Donald Trump is?

@kellyjay said
The under pinning is we are to respect authority, it doesn't say authority we like.
Lawlessness isn't respecting authority, it is breaking away from it.

Did you agree with Jeff Sessions when he quoted Romans 13 to justify his authority to separate asylum seekers from their children?

@kellyjay said
Trump was not my first pick, second pick, even sixth pick. I was never going to vote
for Hillary, mainly because I didn't trust her, I think she had done so many things
wrong and gotten away with them, because I felt she was protected by those in
power.

I think the thing that separated Trump from the rest, was he wasn't one of the
good ole boys in the Republican party ...[text shortened]... by a lot of people who are
mad at Trump. With some of these same people are now, calling for blood!

Do you think Donald Trump said when he meant when uttering one of thousands of documented falsehoods and lies?

In view of Christian teachings, what is your take on Donald Trump's record as the most prolific liar in recent American political history?